Frag Tank Plumbing???

[Peppie]

Looking for some input on setting up a Frag Tank.
Is it better to have it plumbed into the DT?
Is it better to have it plumbed into it's own sump?

Pro's and Con's ??????

 

[estanoche]

in the perfect setup in my mind its plumbed into my main system - stable water quality, less maintenance, and increased system water volume......

seems to make sense to me

Although - one benefit of having something separate, if you have a catastrophic failure in your DT, your frag tank is safe, and you can use the frags to repopulate

 

[Peppie]

in the perfect setup in my mind its plumbed into my main system - stable water quality, less maintenance, and increased system water volume......

seems to make sense to me

Although - one benefit of having something separate, if you have a catastrophic failure in your DT, your frag tank is safe, and you can use the frags to repopulate

Never thought of the DT going bad and also losing the frag tank!!!!

 

[mercenary-grunt]

i have my 55g seahorse plumbed straight into my dt. i like the idea of the extra water volume. you could always use pumps from your sump to the frag tank and an overflow back to your sump.

 

[Spinner]

You could set it up to work both ways pretty easy, then you have options

 

[Peppie]

You could set it up to work both ways pretty easy, then you have options

Come on now Spinner that is a cop-out answer. LOL How would you, and why.?

 

[Peppie]

i have my 55g seahorse plumbed straight into my dt. i like the idea of the extra water volume. you could always use pumps from your sump to the frag tank and an overflow back to your sump.

Were does the water exit from the DT system to be plumbed to the Seahorse tank. And where does the drain water from the SH tank re enter the DT system??

 

[Peppie]

So say I was going to plumb this Frag Tank into my DT system.
Where should the water come from?
Before it is skimmed?
After it is skimmed?
Before it is polished with carbon and GFO? or after?

And were should I dump it back into the Main system??

 

[user 26995]

Id set it up just like your DT. Run overflow from the frag tank into the sump before the skimmer and return pump in the same section with the return pump for the DT.

 

[Spinner]

Hello!

One way i have set up is two sumps connected with (2) 1 1/2" to 2" bulkheads on ends facing each other with union ball valves. I install a total of (4) bulkheads (2) each filter end. This allows for several things using (2) connections allows high flow with instant sump balance makeing both one system. It also allows you to turn off flow going between each system making two again. You use (2) pumps (1) to plumbed each set up and besides lights the rest can be shared like carbon, skimmer, and such.



To answer your question i believe after skimmer, i have built many systems feeding DT from refugium. I pull water from up high in the refugium why not frag tank

 

[Peppie]

Id set it up just like your DT. Run overflow from the frag tank into the sump before the skimmer and return pump in the same section with the return pump for the DT.

The FT water should have much better water quality than the DT, because there are no fish or feeding going on in the FT, There for could'nt I just dump the FT water right back into the Main return section of the sump??

And I wonder if the water going into the FT will have enough nutrients for the corals if I take it directly from the Main Sump return chamber.
I was thinking of pulling water from the main sump, right after the water leaves the skimmer, but before it is ran thru the Carbon/GFO reactor.

I have seen people do it the way you suggested Lorie, I am just wondering if there is any benefits for the coral by doing it different??

 

[user 26995]

You keeping SPS, LPS or softies in this FT?

SPS like cleaner water. You would want the return after the carbon/gfo reactor.
LPS and softies like more nutrients.

 

[mercenary-grunt]

The two larger are the return and the smaller one is connected to a pump in my overflow.

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[Peppie]

Hello!

One way i have set up is two sumps connected with (2) 1 1/2" to 2" bulkheads on ends facing each other with union ball valves. I install a total of (4) bulkheads (2) each filter end. This allows for several things using (2) connections allows high flow with instant sump balance makeing both one system. It also allows you to turn off flow going between each system making two again. You use (2) pumps (1) to plumbed each set up and besides lights the rest can be shared like carbon, skimmer, and such.



To answer your question i believe after skimmer, i have built many systems feeding DT from refugium. I pull water from up high in the refugium why not frag tank

Thanks for the input, My system wont work as you suggested. I think I will feed the FT with the water directly after the skimmer.

Lorie,
It will be a mix of corals in the FT.

Grunt, thanks for the pic

 

[TJL]

Hello!

One way i have set up is two sumps connected with (2) 1 1/2" to 2" bulkheads on ends facing each other with union ball valves. I install a total of (4) bulkheads (2) each filter end. This allows for several things using (2) connections allows high flow with instant sump balance makeing both one system. It also allows you to turn off flow going between each system making two again. You use (2) pumps (1) to plumbed each set up and besides lights the rest can be shared like carbon, skimmer, and such.



To answer your question i believe after skimmer, i have built many systems feeding DT from refugium. I pull water from up high in the refugium why not frag tank

I like Spinners advice and plan on doing just this in future LARGE SYSTEM build. Being able to isolate the Frag Tank quickly into a Coral QT if/when neccessary. If you ever plan on receiving a large amount of corals or fragging a large number from the DT this is when you'd want it separate from DT. So after QT or frags are healed up then it would become part of whole system again.

Cheers, Todd

 

[mercenary-grunt]

+1^

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