Hey Boom :) part deux

[Bomber]

This one is really up your alley.

Clorox is about 5%, right? I'm guessing here.

This is for people that collect their own saltwater from questionable places.

How much Clorox, out of the jug, would you have to add to 100gal to get 10ppm active?

Would 10ppmA do the job? (parasites, etc)

......and how much sodium thiosulfate/hypo would you have to add to neutralize it?

(if you and I don't hurry up, we're going to be too old!)

 

[gman0526]

Hey there.Don't ask how I got a picture of both of you.

 

[Boomer]

That is a 5.25 % solution, so that is 52,500 ppm

So, a gallon of bleach provides 1 part per million (PPM) of chlorine to about 60,000 gallons of water. You should put in extra like 20 ppm. The extra will hurt nothing. And if there is any chance of oodinium you will need it. They can handle 10 ppm based on old tests at AS. If there is any algae in there the sign will be it turns white You should have a circulation pump also.

sodium thiosulfate/hypo

I believe in 1.5 dosage to be safe, with good circulation for at least 4 hrs. Drain tank re-fill with hypo at 1 drop / gal stock solution (make) or that from a LFS. Drain again and go for it.


A liquid or dry treats 5,000 gallons (8.3 oz), so you will more than enough.

This will help with hypo and bleach and is the easy way>LINK below. However, this is for Liquid Chlorine (Sodium Hypochlorite) which is not Bleach and is 12.5 %. So on the gallons answer you need to X gals x 2.5. So for you it is .02 x 2.5 = .05 gal or .8 cups.
For the hypo treatment go with 1.5 dosage as I said above. So, 20 x 1.5 = 30ppm and that is .01 lbs/ 64 grams of hypo/dechlor. This is NOT a stock solution but raw sodium thiosulfate needed for 100 gals of water, the tank. Sock solutions are below on the other two links.
http://www.csgnetwork.com/poolchemcalc.html


You can also use these calculators which have stock solutions.
http://www.cnykoi.com/calculators/calcstdose.asp

http://www.cnykoi.com/calculators/calcdechlor.asp

It will cost you about $10 - $15 do do all this.

To be safe I would buy a cheap swimming pool chlorine test kit.

 

[Boomer]

That is me on the left

 

[Bomber]

and me on the right!

OK Mister - IN ENGLISH!

What's that, about a cup of Clorox to 100 gal of saltwater?

Tom's got hypo, I can run over there and get that.

(If we don't hurry up and do what we said we were going to do, we are going to wake up one day and look like those two dolls!)

 

[Boomer]

Yup, about .8 cup or 1 cup is good

Maybe I'll come down this winterr, how's that ?

 

[gman0526]

Since you're discussing this NSW purifying and such, might as well ask a question. As Jerel knows I live in Puerto Rico and I live very close to the beach (about 10 mins drive). I've used NSW b4 from aa area that to me seemed very clean and had a good thriving reef nearby. But since they making some urban developments in the area there seems to be an awful amount of runoff from a nearby river. Since I noticed this I stopped using and switched to IO/Oceanic 1:1 mix.

I haven't had any real problems, but have noticed my corals looked better when I used NSW.

What would be a good quarantine and treatment procedure when PO and organics is a concern, or should i just stick with ASW?

TY, Noah and Methuselah. Oops sorry.

 

[Boomer]

With all that run-off I would not take a chance. So, stick with ASW

 

[gman0526]

Basically what I figured, TY for your help Boomer.

 

[Bomber]

and i would use the NSW. LOL

Winter's good! We can go trout fishing.

 

[gman0526]

And that would be a nice curve ball. But what can we expect I just walked right into this one. Talk to me Bomber why would you still use the NSW if there might be some nasties in there? If this is possible what should I do to make it usable. (Short of running my own rocessing plant) I still like the idea of being able to use NSW so I'm open to suggestions, TY

 

[Bomber]

OK part two. We figured out the clorox part.

Now in english.

You add 1 cup of Clorox to 100 gal to give you 25-30ppm chlorine.

To get rid of it, how much hypo - the crystal one - do you add.
1/3 cups??

I know, I just crossed the blood brain barrier - liquid and weight.

when you get through with this, I'll call and tell you what a bone head mistake I did. But I will not post it! LOL

 

[Boomer]

I give you a calculator and you are still lost I know you are just making sure


More reading for you
http://www.jonahsaquarium.com/dechlor.htm

.01 lbs or 65 grams for 100 gal
1 /4 cup of for each 1000 gallons if chlorine is about 2 ppm and you are at 30. 1/8 cup for 1 ppm / 1000 gals. .125 x 30 = 3.75 cups for 30 ppm for 1000. = .00375 cups / gal x 100gal / = .375 cups

So, you did really good at 1/3 cup BUT since you will NOT be using this water dump in 1/2 cup. I like extra to be safe.

Basically, 2.5 parts sodium thiosulfate per one part chlorine.

This is what you are going to be making with the hypo.

2 Na2S2O3 (5 H2O) + Cl2 = 2 NaCl + Na2S4O6 = salt + sodium dithionate

===> shit-loads of table salt and sodium sulfate





I know, I just crossed the blood brain barrier - liquid and weight.

Yup and I knew you were going to do that. It is not easy figuring cups into weight, when you do not know what the weight/.vol is.













I figured you made some big mistake :lol: Jer has Ick or similar Due to the fact he added a new fish without proper QT

 

[Bomber]

Brooklynella from using raw canal water in the heat.

 

[Boomer]

Same thing as a new fish

 

[Bomber]

I know, and I'm 'tarded enough to forget that the water is still hot....

.....and lazy enough to not do things I should do when I should do them.

 

[Bomber]

You wouldn't happen to know a cheap place to get 5lbs of sodium thio would you?

 

[Reefin']

http://www.chemistrystore.com/sodium_thiosulfate.htm