i was prolly being a little too hard on them then,
i've gotten pretty persnickety about skimmer quality as of late,
and considering that most of us dont play contact sports with our skimmers, the build quality is probably just fine.
if you bought one pumpless, with a bigger neck as luke suggested,and put a nicely modded sicce or askoll/laguna it would probably be great.
so how's that for a 180??? lol
and like i said, i havent held one in my hands either. and in their defense, the pics i've seen of their more recent skimmers look a great deal better than the ones i first saw from a several months ago, too..
oh and your right rick, im sorry, he does sell them with sicce pumps. but not mesh modded, and i dont think he is going to continue, as he has plans to use the tunze pumps exclusively once they work out the warrany issues of modification.