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bighitrider45

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Cycling.....So I have had my tank set up for about 2 weeks with about 15#s of LR and a prizm protein skimmer, I tested my water today and my nitrates were alittle high, im thinking that I will wait about 1-2 more weeks and test it again and if its at 0 is it time to add corals and fish?
 
I'd test it more often so you can track your cycle better. Did you see an ammonia spike? If your nitrates are rising, it's a good indication that you've had an ammonia spike already. You'll want to track your nitrate levels on their way up and on the way back down too though so test more often. I'd say you're on your way to having a great tank though!! Keep us all posted please and pics would be great!

BTW, welcome to RF!!
 
NO3 (nitrate) will not go away in a few weeks. If you mean mean NO2 (nitrite) it will zero out. Water changes will get rid of the NO3. Hold off before adding corals. Your tank needs some age and you need some experience keeping your water parameters cosistant. After NO2 and NH3 are zero you could add a fish.
 
I totally agree with what Brenden says. I think in my first response, I said Nitrates...I meant Nitrites. As ammonia spikes, nitrites will start to rise. At the same time, you should see your Ammonia levels fall. Your Ammonia levels need to reach 0. As your Nitrites spike, you'll start to see Nitrates rise. Your Nitrite levels need to reach 0. This indicates that your bacterial colony is becoming established. Your Nitrates won't fall on their own really. That's where exporting Nitrates comes in. To start with, the best way for you to do this will be water changes, using RO/DI water, unless you have exceptional water out of your tap. Eventually, you can also help export Nitrates using Macro Algaes along with water changes.

Keep in mind that even when your levels end up where you want them...that only indicates that your biological filtration is adequate for the waste you have in the tank at that time. When you add fish, you'll need to allow time for the biological filter to grow to accommodate more waste, more bio-load. To start out, when you add fish, you'll probably notice a slight rise in Ammonia, then Nitrites. Ammonia and Nitrites are both lethal to fish and inverts. Fish will be able to tolerate a slight level of Nitrates but, as Brenden stated, you'll want to wait to add corals or other inverts until your Nitrate levels are at or very near 0. You may need to add a small clean up crew in the near future though. Other's will probably chime in with suggestions also.
 
thanks for the replys, So i got confused and it was actually my ammnia that was alittle high...mah bad. So i need to get a test kit (i used my friends before)a dn then once ammonia is at 0 im gunna get 2 clowns and then wait another 2 weeks or so and get corals...sounds good?
 
k so im an uber noob liek crazy so my mistake my annonia has spiked and now goign down so now my nitrite and nitrate will spike then go down then I will get fish, so prolly another 2-3 weeks.
anyone have any thoughts?
 
live sand

In a tank that small it makes no sence to even go through a cycle.Carib-sea sells 10 lb bags of their live sand and with curedx rock and a little bottle of nitro-max your ready to stock at will that same day.
 
The "QUICK" cycle stuff you buy in stores is useless for long term health to your tank. Cycling takes the same amount of time no matter what size tank you're dealing with. Carib Sea live sand is a great product...but it's dry when you pour it out of the bag. None of the living organisms that you need in your tank are alive. They still need to populate and multiply. Same with store bought items. They all have a shelf life. They are made up of mostly water. Your best bet is to seed your live sand and live rock with established live sand and live rock. Another thing to keep in mind is that if you do have a small tank, things can go considerably bad very quickly. It doesn't take much ammonia in a 10 gallon tank to wipe everything out.

Now maybe some of the "Miracle" products have worked for others in the past...or maybe they just got lucky. That's no reason to give people bad advice that will likely make them discouraged very quickly when they lose livestock quickly. Let's try and give people sound advice that will help them enjoy the hobby for years to come instead of shoving their tank back into the basement storage room a few months after setting it up.
 
I agree with Sid totally...Tank size doesn't matter at all. The same way you would let your tank sit and go through the cycling process with the live rock experiencing whatever die-off it might and and the tank becoming populated with the different "bacteria's" necessary for biological filtration and denitrification in a large tank, you will want to do in a small tank. Rushing things in most cases, usually only leads to disaster. Just my 2 cents:)
 
yeah so i have about 15#s of LR and about 6-7#s of live sand in my tank, i got it (rock and sand)from a mature tank and im goign to get a peice or coral and see if it survives in there until i get a test kit
 
If I were you, I definitely wouldn't put any coral in there yet. If you have access to a good LFS, take some of your tank water to them to have it tested for Ammonia, Nitrites and Nitrates. Then go from there. With a tank as new as yours is, you're going to have an algae bloom most likely, it's part of the cycle. Putting corals in your tank before it's completely cycled is just asking for trouble...IMO.
 
I would also like to stat that the quick cycle stuff regardless of brand is garabage. I also noticed you plan to add two clowns. Be aware that 2 clowns will be all the fish a 10 gal will handle. I would get them small and still watch your tank for any hints of NH3. Have water ready for a WC in case. You may want to consider a firefish or a goby/shrimp pair. It is all just a personal preference but that would give you more variety that just a pair of clowns. Also I would wait months not weeks before adding any coral. Take it slow. Show some good husbantry and I am sure someone on here would give or sell you a frag of zoas cheap, to see how you do before you go out spending $$ on corals.
 
If you have your heart set on clowns I highly recommend shooting a PM to Elmo18 who breeds and raises clowns in the Seattle area.

I also think you should wait until the algea cycle passes and should get and LFS to test your water to double check it. Give it a while before you add fish.
 
my nitrites and ammonia are at zero and my nitrates are at 10 ppm so i added some fish (2 striped damsels) and on wednesday im getting coral. They wasy i see it is my damsels have survived for about a week now so my water perameters must be around zero...am i wrong to think this, also in about 4 days im getting a test kit, not saliferts (i dont have enouguh cash) but the cheap tests kits you can find at petco or somghting jsut to get an idea of where my water perams are.
 

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