Theoretical Question

[csababubbles]

Let's say the world was bizzaro world and fish were the dominant intelligent species. A hobby of theirs is to keep land based animals and plants. So they set up an enclosure and start setting up this little ecosystem that they think will balance itself out and their little creatures can survive. They put in a human, but make sure they are similar colors because they heard that humans that look different from each other will often fight. They put in a few little rabbits cause they think they are cute. But one of them finds out one day the human ate all the bunnies. oh oh. right away humans get classified as non-reef safe. or should i say not forest-safe. They see we make a lot of waste so they put in a bunch of earthworms and snails to deal with the human crap and other wastes we produce. But a lot of them decide its too much work keeping the soil because it collects to much waste so they remove it and make us live on bare glass bottoms. That would be annoying. Always slipping and not having something soft to sleep on. What kind of things do you think they would do that is like what we do with aquariums that would just make the inhabitants (humans, plants, animals, etc.) feel weird? For example, let's say they send some of their fish out with flying masks to explore the dry world. They sense that there is a lot of wind in our environment. So they set up our enclosure with lots of wind generating devices. Which I think would suck because I certainly don't like living in a place with lots of wind. But they think its natural and how we would like it. And what if they see we always fight with other humans so they never put two humans, so we never get to talk to anyone or ever have sex! I don't know. Maybe we got some things to rethink about what we think fish like.

 

[soyadrink]

very true, but how do you know for sure what they need and what not?

 

[csababubbles]

well i thought i figured it out this weekend when i was thinking about this and i think i knew what they wanted. i even asked the two big pink fish that was floating around my living room and they told me. too bad I couldn't understand the language.

 

[Reefreak]

I recall having thoughts like this.............
Then they started random testing at work so you will have to figure this one out on your own.

 

[Snowboarda42]

I think the part of this hobby that makes it so interesting is making our tanks as close to the real thing as possible. Keeping the water clean, replicating lighting, making flow, heat, etc. Unfortunately we have to simply try things out and see how they go. Things like adjusting temperature, feeding foods, making waves, etc. all at some point, are experimental, if not all the time. Remember undergravel filters? If you look back on those, we might call all those years experimental, since we found out that it hurt more than helped. Its just the nature of this hobby. One day, we might look back and say, I can't believe that we actually used electric powerheads in our tanks that made constant blasts of water, rather than using the technology of magnets to replicate wave fronts, or tidal simulations, or whatever technology is in the future. Back to your main concern of "happy fish", the only way we currently have is to watch fish behavior. The way that fish act in our tanks as compared to the behavior of that in the wild. Things like discoloration, not eating, jumping from tanks, fighting, etc. all have some way of telling us if the fish is "happy" or "unhappy".

 

[AquaKnight]

The part omitted in your theory is that the humans, sub-species, has the same intelligence as we have today, and aren't "as dumb as the fish we keep are". Therefore, for the fish to keep humans, they have a completely different set of requirements than how we keep fish.

An example would be you could keep a person in a 6x6 cube, with a computer, xbox, and beer forever. But take those away and the person would likely human kill himself going stir crazy.

 

[csababubbles]

how much space do you think we would need relative to our body size? i wonder how many of us would get stuck with some newbie fish that went to the human store and saw all the pretty people in the little containers and recognized one of the from the movie "finding john" and took him him in his little 4'x4'x4' container that the human store worker said would be fine and that the person would just grow to the container size. lol. that would suck.

and you know what would really stink? i guess you could think of Aiptasia in aquariums as mosquitoes in the human containers. annoying everything and making life just miserable for us. and the fish heard from their buddies that you can put a bunch of spiders in the container and they would eat the mosquitoes. but some of the fish at human stores can't tell the difference between the spiders that eat mosquitoes and ones that don't so inevitably some fish will go home with a bag of tarantulas for his poor unsuspecting human! yech!

 

[Jan]

I recall having thoughts like this.............
Then they started random testing at work so you will have to figure this one out on your own.

ROFLMAO!

I was thinking something along these lines

 

[csababubbles]

wow some of you guys need to get some of your imagination back. been an adult way to long.

 

[Scooterman]

Who's to say we're already not some beings experiment & the earth is our cage? :badgrin:

 

[Jan]

Who's to say we're already not some beings experiment & the earth is our cage?

Now, there you go. Imagination alive and well.

 

[Reeferdude]

The mistakes these "human keepers" would make is trying to dictate and control mother nature all the while not really having a clue. They would probably kill most of the lil' humans by drowning and isolate the others from social activities due to a lack of clothing. They would also hopefully learn (before too many died) that we cannot survive constantly breathing in our own gases unlike them swimming around in their own waste. Hopefully I would not be one of the first captive...

 

[csababubbles]

i would think there would be more social activities with some naked coed's

 

[DonW]

i would think there would be more social activities with some naked coed's

Your dogs a little wierd also.


Sorry I'm easily ammused

 

[csababubbles]

LMAO! its actually a little scary and freaking me out.

 

[Boomer]

wow some of you guys need to get some of your imagination back. been an adult way to long.

Ok then why not go here .........then what do we do ??

 

[Scooterman]

Oh man, Boomer that is it! ROFLMAO!:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[Reeferdude]

That's fine in your neck of the woods but here you'd get pulled over and carted off to jail with a crowd of animal rights activists ready to lynch you because you let the Deer drive without a seatbelt...

 

[Boomer]

Oh, we have that seat belt thing here also:lol: