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Hahaha Trevor
One big tip of advice with the refugium concept. You need to make it so that you can turn it off from the system if anything goes wrong. So, in your sump would be a bad idea and this is where a lot of people go wrong. You need to create a seperate box. The best way is to have it up above your tank, pump water up to the refugium and then allow gravity to feed it back into your tank. This illiminates any small copepods or amphopods from getting chopped up in the impellers from return pumps. This is also another big problem people run into.
 
And therein I run into a problem. I knew that the best refugiums were ‘gravity fed’ and sat above the tank. Not knowing this before hand, I didn’t design a tank stand with that in mind. I’ve got a Seaview 120 gallon tank, that’s running ‘only’ half an inch thick, so I worry about putting too much weight above the tank where the weight rests on the tank its self. At this point, I’m living in a two bedroom apartment where the second bedroom is doing triple duty as the computer/office, guest bedroom, and the tank room; I’m trying to keep everything under/in the stand. My wife has been known to refer to me as “Super Anal,” in reference to my obsessive/compulsive behavior. I must have it look good, not a God-awful mess.

So, the grand plan in my mind is to expend the big dollars for a sump/refugium setup and run it just as a large sump with maybe LR rubble for additional filtration. (See Eric’s (SalsaKing) setup for my inspiration!)

Most of the time humility is not my strong suit, however when it’s my limited fundage we’re talking about, I’ll always be ignorant!:lol:

Trevor :cool:
 
Trevor,
I still wouldn't go with the Live rock in the sump, unless you will faithfully clean all the trapped detritus out. I would recommend going to Lowes or Homedepot and getting a wall mount shelf. By a couple extra good-looking (for that anal compulsive/obsessiveness) for the added support. We can get together and make you a long skinny/tall refugium. Which can sit on that stand (that is screwed into the wall studs). I also need to help Todd with a square sump, that we need to build so we can do it then as well. This way you will not have the extra detritus build up in your sump and your refugium will be gravity fed, which will make "THE BIGGEST DIFFERENCE."
Bobby
 
Best picture I could get

Well, this is the best I can do on a picture of my Multi-Barred Angel (Paracentropyge multifasciatus). He's been with me for more then a year now. Loves to eat Mysis shrimp along with all my copepods that the refugium offers. I got very lucky with this guy, since they are very hard to keep alive. I've found that people have better luck if they can take them home straight from the bag from a LFS shipment. If you allow the LFS to acclimate them, they usually never live. Everyone I've sold one of these to or have talked to, have recieved theirs straight out of the bag from the wholesalers.
 
I might be able to get some better pictures of him. He is afraid of my camera. Everytime I get the camera out he hides, it's like he knows exactly what I want to do. That little bugger.
 
Haha, they wouldn't see that anyways. Because first of all they are impossible to catch. So, basically the $100.00 is a NO you can't have it statement. They are very hard to catch. But, they do sell them I believe for are $45 - $55. Just make sure you get it straight from the bag.
 
Looks Great bob. I just returned from my Vacation. Looked for some great Zoo's and got skunked everwhere I went except at one store in Salt Lake that wanted way to much for a small patch of standard green zoos.
 
Many people are becoming very greedy with the new colored Zoo's. Just like they used to be on some great SPS. I really want to change that. This is why I'm out to get some really nice zoo's and start propagating them in smaller tanks. My goal is to be able to get these guys out everywhere and start the aquaculture process of Zoo's.
 

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