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i know what ya mean. i had spent a long day on the setup alone and then it took three days just to fill using a 50gpd r/o unit. anyhow best of luck and remember have patience, it will all come together eventually.
 
Spray bars are flow pigs. As in they really swallow it up. You really need to beware of the DSB when you are running a spray bar, things can get messy. To be honest I would go ahead on the sea swirls and then run two stems coming over the top that go about half way down the tank. You can position them so they are hidden and then run two out puts per stem. Use a little locline so you can move them to where you want. this should give you good flow through out with out screwing up the sand.
I would go with at least a 3000gph on the closed loop. Have it come out of the pump and go into a tee. then up to the top of the tank, form thier spit it into another tee. One half of that tee would go down as a stem. the other half would go to a SS put a ball valve just after the secont tee so you can trottle the flow between the stem and the SS. Make sure the stem is off set from the SS so they dont work the same space. Copy this on the other side.
Let me know if you can picture that.


Mike
 
Hreat Mike!......I will work on a drawing tomorrow and see if I am on the same page as you......again thank you for all your help as well as everyone else! I am so glad that I found this forum and not to mention alot of locals on this forum as well.....I would really like to start going to some of the PSAS meetings in the near future.

Jeff
 
mojo, any particular pump reccomendations? would that stem in a barebottom go to the bottom instead of half way down? i was also wondering if that could be too much flow for an lps, softie tank?
 
Sryder I would suggest at least a 3000 gph, perhaps a little more if it were BB. Yes the stems would go all the way down on a BB.
The concept of filtrations in Reef tanks pretty much fall into two catagories with some crossing over. The filtration is always to deal with waste and detritus. On one handd you have those that rely more on biological means through the use of LS and LR for the processing of the above, call it kind of a aquarium composting. The other form are for those that rely more on mechanical filtration, they design thier system to keep the waste/detritus in the water column so that it can be removed through the overflow and them skimmed (and/o simular) out. So to answer your question if you have a BB system your first thougths must be to remove the waste/detritus. To do this you dont need a ton of flow just enough properly directed flow to do the job. If you feel that the flow is bothering your LPS and softies then just break it up more so it is not direct but still does the job you need it to do. So an example would be instead of having just two outputs on the end of the stem you could attach locline Y's to each and break it down to 4 outputs and get more coverage with out haing flow directly hit the corals, also stuff like bouncing the flow of the sides of the tank helps to.


Mike
 
thanks mojo, i like the idea. any specific brand pump you would reccomend?
 
Either a ampmaster or one of the sequence pumps.

Dolphin thats the puppy. Just make sure you put a ball valve right after the tee on the pipe that goes to the SS. That way you can adjust your flow as needed between the two.


Mike
 
hey mojo i saw on one of your posts you have had a vlamengii tang for a while. how big is that sucker and can you post a recent pic of him?
 
sryder - here's a recent pic from when Mike's tank was getting reaquascaped:

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Wow thats a good pic Nikki where did you get it?? is it one of Llarians??

Sryder its about 5 years old and is about 13 to 14 inches. Eatslike a pig and is a huge bio load, but I do love the fish. The kids feed him right from thier hands and he lets them pet him. I really dont reccoment these fish to anyone they swim very quickly and need a ton of room, in my tank he gets 16 feed but I still feel guilty and he will go to 2 feet long.


MIke
 
wow..... hes way cool. i thought they grew large but 2 feet in a tank is amazing.
you must be thinking ahead and are hoping hell outgrow your tank so youll have to go even larger. you may have to turn that( L ) shape into a big u shape. lol.... hes beutiful
 

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