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As for the original question - no, raising the light is not a viable method for reducing the light intensity in the tank if he is using a decent reflector. layers of window screen are much more effective.

Lets consider the light hitting the water surface in two parts - the light coming directly from the bulb, and the light hitting the water surface after bouncing off the reflector.

For the reflector light - since the light hits the water surface at close to 90 degrees, there is almost no spreading, so no real effect of height above water on light intensity enterring the tank. And we both agree that the reflector contributes more than half the total light penetrating the water surface, right?

For the light hitting the water surface directly from the bulb, the "lost photons" are those that hit the water surface at a flat-enough angle so that much of them are reflected by the surface rather than refracted into the water. This angle is unaffected by the height of the bulb. So, unless you raise the bulb really high (high enough that even the photons from the bulb that are coming down at high angle to the water surface would still miss the tank), you will have the same percentage of reflected versus refracted photons. And, if you have a hood around the top of your tank (instead of free-hanging pendants), some of the light that "missed" the tank because you had the bulbs mounted high will still bounce off the sides of the hood and hit the water. The only lost photons (lost energy) are the ones that hit the water at too shallow an angle to penetrate.

You mention ripple effect, and yes, ripples do have some effect. In some cases they cause light that would have otherwise penetrated to be reflected, and in other cases they cause light that would have been reflected to penetrate. But unless you can create a concave surface on your water (huge fan blowing directly down :) ), the ripple effect will not result in a net increase of light penetrating the tank. It will cause local, short-term, intensity variations, but no net increase.
 
Hehe I love talking reef with you Don!!
As for the original question - no, raising the light is not a viable method for reducing the light intensity in the tank if he is using a decent reflector. layers of window screen are much more effective.
Ok the reef optix 2 is a crappy reflector(sorry Zeltar :eek: ). Both the front of the reflector and the rear are completely useless and allow alot of energy to escape. So in raising this type of reflector its going to have a large impact, I do agree on the screens though.
For the reflector light - since the light hits the water surface at close to 90 degrees, there is almost no spreading, so no real effect of height above water on light intensity enterring the tank. And we both agree that the reflector contributes more than half the total light penetrating the water surface, right?
Yes reflected light does constitute more then half the light, But I dont think we are going to get all that light energy being blown down at 90degree angles. To be honest I dont think very much at all is coming down at 90, I think you are relating to a much higher quality of reflector.
For the light hitting the water surface directly from the bulb, the "lost photons" are those that hit the water surface at a flat-enough angle so that much of them are reflected by the surface rather than refracted into the water
Well this is all that is important right??
This angle is unaffected by the height of the bulb
This is where I think we loose each other. IMO the higher you raise the light the more you increase the ammount of photons hitting the water at an usable degree to that which is unusable or make it travel a longer path to the coral through a turbid media?? If you are covering a patch of water at a square of 8 x 8 at a certain level above the water and then you raise the light so it covers a 12 x 12 patch you have increased this outter zone, a zone at which the angle of the light entering the tank is has increased and is more likely to be unusable or greatly decressed?? that now constitutes 30% of the total light right?? YOu really need to see my hand jesters while I am discussing it,lol
the ripple effect will not result in a net increase of light penetrating the tank.
Ok but we are not only worried about light penetrating the tank, we want that light to hit certain areas of the tank (ie: corals). Light could hit the wave, penetrate the water and be blown out the front glass on 2 inches into the water?? The higher the light source the more light falls into this catagory or simular no??

Ok my arms are tired, hehehe


Mike
 
I don't know if anybody has mentioned this or why they haven't. Why don't you use some kind of chain and put hooks in the ceiling? Thats what i did and i can raise and lower my lights as high or as low as i want.
 
Shallowreef - that's a good plan, too! The discussion has turned into whether or not raising your lights is a viable method for photo acclimation.
 
ROFL - you can actually skim over my posts....most of it is just babble anyway. :D. :lol:
 
I'll make a note of it:lol: Just Kidding. Hey do you have a C02 system by chance? I really want to give it a shot but i'd like to know everyones opinion on the subject. BigTom was talking about a DIY C02 system but i'm not that confident in myself to build something like that.
 
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