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Glad your getting out of school in two days, congrats!

Sorry for not being around much been under pressure at work & at home also lol, I need to stop and learn how to say no sometimes, right now I have so many projects half completed it is just crazy. I can't wait to see pics. always a good thing. Now while your tank cycles, it will spike several times, this is normal, let everything run excluding the lights & do water changes to help with the process, also don't add fish with the traits that high, get them down first. Damsels umm yep they can be disastrous to say the least!
 
On the last water check I did, yesterday, I found that nitrate was a bit high, 6.5-7 so I, using the only powerhead we have in there, increased the surface aggitation to help reduce it.... that will work right?

A powerhead pointed at the surface won't help reduce your nitrates. Water changes will help this, provided the nitrates of the water change water is lower than these readings. How are the ammonia and nitrites?

On the red algae - is it mat like and slimey looking? or is it more of a hair type algae?
 
Scooterman said:
I need to stop and learn how to say no sometimes, right now I have so many projects half completed it is just crazy.


I know what you mean.... I usually have a few projects going at once and I just end up getting distracted...

Don't worry about it, hopefully we'll know sometime next week whether or not we will be getting funding from the school and then if we do the plumbing won't be exactly the first thing that we build. No Rush!
 
Nikki-

NaH2O said:
On the red algae - is it mat like and slimey looking? or is it more of a hair type algae?

I couldn't tell if it was slimmy "looking" so I stuck my hand down in there and felt is, it is slimmy and very thin,most of it is on the sand. That may be why the snails don't eat it, they tend to stay away from the sand.

The ammonia is about .10 ppm and the Nitrites are at .08ppm. Temp is 81F and the salinity is at 1.024. pH is at 8.3 and Alk was normal to slightly low.

I think that the purple coraline likes the new lighting, it seems to have spread a little from when I looked at it yesterday.... or maybe I am just imagining it.

I thought that I heard somewhere that surface agitation was a good way to do something, I thought it was to remove nitrates into the atmosphere...
 
Surface agitation is good to keep the slime from accumulating and blocking light and it is good for gas exchange.
 
Since this is going in a public space and you never know who will mess with it I would get a battery operated digital thermometer preferably with alarm as sometimes people unplug stuff and forget about it.

Do post instructions next to it on who to call if there is a problem-a school here has a tank and they don't ever call consequently have had all the fish replaced several times over for every conceivable reason. Also let maintenance know not to use sprays or pesticides near the tank, preferably not in the room or near the windows outside.

A simple alarm can be installed to tell you if the tank, skimmer or sump is overflowing. Powells Technical Books in Portland sells them as a 6 buck kids toy "rain alarm" but I cannot find them anywhere else which is pretty annoying... Maybe your science dept can help with this idea. This sounds like the same idea:
http://xtronics.com/kits/SK-108.htm
Wonder if you can get the science dept to rig up a ph monitor and program a recycled computer to ring your cel phone if the ph, temp, etc shifts? Sounds like a great project for the students... and justifiable valid applied science experiment. I don't know what grades/abilities you work with, if you can make this happen share the results with us eh? Can you make it Linux ? :)

I use temperature controllers/thermostats for heaters, they have much greater precision than what you get with a typical heater. Heaters fail either on or off, one way means fry your tank with heat and the other by chilling. If you have two heaters and one fails will you notice? How long will the 2nd heater last if it was bought at the same time and is suddenly doing the work of two? Most of the heaters I have bought have failed within a year of usage, usually in the on position. Plus most heaters have the thermostat mounted right above the heating coil so if there is not flow across it the water rises when heated and tells the thermostat the tank is warmer than it is. Most also don't turn on or off til a 2 to 4 degree temperature shift which I believe is not acceptable when the lights are already shifting things around enough to stress the animals.
At the bottom of this page they explain it better than I do, I like their pro gear but I use $15 Otto thermostats from Angels Plus because I am cheap :)
http://www.jehmco.com/PRODUCTS_/HARDWARE_/Temperature_Controller/temperature_controller.html
http://www.angelsplus.com/ go to store and look under heaters for the otto temperature controller.
I don't know if these guys would donate or cut you a deal. There is a well known brand of titanium heater with remote thermostat attached which I don't recommend, two caught on fire that I know of and they cost too much, if either the thermostat or heater breaks you throw both away, I don't like that.

Above all I would quarantine at home and be very very careful. Post a sign that nothing goes in the tank, if someone wants to make a donation they need to clear it with you so you don't end up with surpise "gifts". (unwanted damsels and freshwater fish) Some people think you can mix freshwater and saltwater if you are "careful". Part of this is because a certain box store or two tells it's employees to answer all questions with "yes" or be fired... I heard one employee tell a lady if she kept it at ph 8.4 she could keep a marine angel with freshwater cichlids, so you never know what people will think are ok to put in your tank. Cichlids in the marine tank, they can last a day or two... A friend found a sandwich in his sump that a kid tossed in. He said a couple Magnum 350's and a lot of carbon took care of that. Guess it couldn't hurt to have water, cleaning gear and supplemental filters set aside for emergencies like that.

One fund raiser you could do is to have parents donate tank gear they don't want for you to ebay off. Lots of people have aquariums in the garage. Keep the magnum 350s. :)

Good luck! I have mushrooms and kenya tree corals galore if you go soft coral... let me know, I will mail you some.

Kate
 
Hey, thanks Kate. You have a lot of good ideas. If we get the funding, and the school allows my brother and I to build the stand and hood, we will build it so that stupid kids can't do stupid things, like putting a sandwich in the sump... : ) We will probably install locks on the stands doors and likewise for the hood or canopy. Lake Stevens High School does have a principals of technology class which is an applied class where the students have access to materials that allow them to build things. They might be able to rig some warning devices and such. I should have a better idea of where we stand after this week. My teacher was waiting until after graduation to talk to the principal considering that this event was probably stressful for the principal.

Thank you and I will keep these ideas in mind.

Ian
 
Keep us updated too, this could be a fun project for a number of disciplines-teaches practical aspects like wiring, plumbing, and woodworking as well as physics and chemistry lessons in the ways light works and the flow of water. Chemistry is a given. Hey, and if the science dept raises fruit flies for experiments you can feed the extra flies to the fish, they love em... Course some of the kids will still probably roll their eyes and snore even if Nemo is in the tank. :) I remember science class, we drove our teachers nuts while secretly being really interested and attentive.
Kate
 

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