Frogspawn "spawn"

[cyberdeth]

OK, so one the bottom of mah tank sits/lays some frogspawn spawn. It's only like 4 or 5 (do we call these polps?) polps. What should I do with them?

TIA!

-CD

 

[returnofsid]

4 or 5 polyps would be a fairly good sized piece that measured a few inches. Each polyp, when fully expanded, is pretty large.

Is it attached to any skeleton? If so, put the skeleton in a hole in your rockwork, in an area of low flow and moderate light. If no skeleton, which is unlikely, but possible, protect it from high flow until it forms a skeleton.

 

[cyberdeth]

4 or 5 polyps would be a fairly good sized piece that measured a few inches. Each polyp, when fully expanded, is pretty large.

Is it attached to any skeleton? If so, put the skeleton in a hole in your rockwork, in an area of low flow and moderate light. If no skeleton, which is unlikely, but possible, protect it from high flow until it forms a skeleton.

What do we call the pieces of the polp then?

So, these are w/o a skeleton (I do believe). Cool to put them in a hole in the live rock?

Thanks Sid!

 

[returnofsid]

Hmmm, probably tentacles. Sounds like you have a Frogspawn that "budded." This doesn't happen very often, but is cool. The problem with putting the "tentacles" in a hole in your live rock is that it'll fall in the hole, not get any light and die. Until it creates it's own skeleton, it really needs to be kept in a low flow area, where it won't get blown around and lost. I've lost a couple Frogspawn and Hammer "Buds" this way, only to find the Frogspawn a couple of years later, growing in the back of the tank.

 

[cyberdeth]

Hmmm, probably tentacles. Sounds like you have a Frogspawn that "budded." This doesn't happen very often, but is cool. The problem with putting the "tentacles" in a hole in your live rock is that it'll fall in the hole, not get any light and die. Until it creates it's own skeleton, it really needs to be kept in a low flow area, where it won't get blown around and lost. I've lost a couple Frogspawn and Hammer "Buds" this way, only to find the Frogspawn a couple of years later, growing in the back of the tank.

Cool. I'll find a "special" place for them then!

Thanks!

 

[returnofsid]

If all you're seeing are "tentacles," there's a chance that it won't forum a mouth, and will die. However, it might form a mouth, making it a complete polyp.

 

[TJL]

Hey Cyberdeth,

Are you saying that your Frogspawn mother colony had a polyp bail-out or did you get/trade/purchase a individual head of coral ? Like Michael said it will need to have a mouth to survive. Here is a few pics of my mixed Euphyllia colony wich consists of Pink Frogspawn (E. paradivisa) and Green Euphyllia parancora. Close-ups show mouths

Todd

 

[cyberdeth]

Hey Cyberdeth,

Are you saying that your Frogspawn mother colony had a polyp bail-out
Todd

Yeah. I guess that is what I was trying to splain! But, I was using my mag-float and forgot about the turbulence and I lost it.

Even more confusing is Sid is not really Sid, but Michael. Now, if I find out Nancy isn't really Nancy I'm in for one hell of a night!

 

[returnofsid]

LOL Nothing to do with THAT Sid.

 

[TJL]

Toooo funny, It took me awhile to figure (returnofsid) as well. I have had various Euphyllia colonies for more than 20 yrs and don't believe Mine have ever bailed before but regulary grow new polyps on tiny stalks at base of tissue on established heads. I probably have 20-25 right now in there. I'm guessing in nature these probably get nocked off by fish & inverts then drift away to start new colonies.

Todd

 

[returnofsid]

What happened probably isn't polyp bail-out, as an entire polyp didn't bail. It sounds more like "budding," where some of the tissue, on a particular polyp, will droop, usually towards the sand bed or rock. It'll stretch all the way down, until the tissue has settled on a substrate. Then the stretched tissue will break itself off, leaving a small portion of tissue on the substrate. This tissue will then form into a polyp, growing a mouth, and then start to create it's own skeleton. I've had Frogspawn, Hammer and a Favia do it, but can only find pictures of the Favia.

 

[TJL]

Euphyllia buds

Very Cool pic Michael, Here is a couple shabby pics of my Euphyllia I took just moments ago showing the new buds a base of tissue

 

[cyberdeth]

LOL Nothing to do with THAT Sid.

I figured not, but my brain went there.

 

[cyberdeth]

Toooo funny, It took me awhile to figure (returnofsid) as well. I have had various Euphyllia colonies for more than 20 yrs and don't believe Mine have ever bailed before but regulary grow new polyps on tiny stalks at base of tissue on established heads. I probably have 20-25 right now in there. I'm guessing in nature these probably get nocked off by fish & inverts then drift away to start new colonies.

Todd

Well, I hope I can find these guys. Maybe my two new lettuce nudis and the 10 snails I just got from Brie will help me not make so much turbulence in the future.

btw. nice pics Sid/TLJ

 

[LynnMT]

how do split frogspawn I have a good size clump but would like to add it to other areas in my tank?

 

[TJL]

It is pretty easy, option A is to just break off branch(s) from outside of colony with your hands and place/glue them elsewhere or option B is to use a dremel or similar tool to cut off branch(s) of your choosing. Thier skeleton is very fragile at the head so if you can hold up in your hands for either option, in option B just stop cutting shy of complete andd finish breaking off by hand.

Todd

 

[LynnMT]

It is pretty easy, option A is to just break off branch(s) from outside of colony with your hands and place/glue them elsewhere or option B is to use a dremel or similar tool to cut off branch(s) of your choosing. Thier skeleton is very fragile at the head so if you can hold up in your hands for either option, in option B just stop cutting shy of complete andd finish breaking off by hand.

Todd

Thanks will give it a try