Collin appreciate your help, You are preaching at the choir man, I am not the one with ick. I agree with your statements 100% The only effective means of ick irradication is the fallow tank killing the parisites through lack of host org. Danny has put all of his fish in a 30 gallon tank, I am not sure it is big enough to keep all of his fish alive, I wanted him to move them here to my quar. tanks. a 55 and a 44 with cycled established filtration with no ick. The only thing he can do now is frequent like every two days water changes on the small tank now holding a good sized queen angel, a snowflake moray, a good sized maroon clown, 2 black occ. clowns and some others I dont remember. Maybe if you told him the tank is to small and he is probley going to kill his fish. I dont know. I have said it. I have at my house garlic, uv, and the stuff to deal with ick. I dont know what else to say. Please talk to him about the live rock and moving it to a 240 gallon tank soon, I know it is drastic but I am recomending either drying, freshwater soaking and recuring with new live rock or boiling before putting it into his new HUGE EXPENSIVE TANK!!!!!! I think the best way to insure the trophants are off and not stuck hiding in the underskleton pores of the corals is a freshwater dip. Not moving the live sand to his HUGE EXPENSIVE TANK!!!!! and very very very strict quar. procedures for all live stock coming into the tank. These are only my opinions I do not mean in any way to offend. I just dont know what else to say. I dont think a 30 will keep those fish stress free enough to recover from ick. I think the stress of fluctuating water quality, stress of extremly close quarters, lack of hiding spaces, medicine, and the parisite itself will kill his fish. Maybe if you say it Colin or Mojo or somebody else I dont know. steve