Over stocking?

[Basile]

Hi, i'm a bit confused about stocking. I've got two clowns Black & White Ocellaris Clownfish - Tank-Bred in my 65 G; 36"X18"X24" and planing to add a Kole Yellow Eye Tang and a Sailfin/Algae Blenny to it. And i'm told by some that its alright and i still got room. I've just red the sticky about DT stocking infor ;great by the way. But i'm not experienced enough to know. I've never own a tang nor a blenny. I know what i know fron site and stores. In my understanding, the clown that i have will stay fairely to the top of the tank, and the blenny at the bottom. The tang should swim lenght wise middle i guess. The aquascape gives a clear path for that i made sure of it but i'm concern after what i've red. Plus in about a year when the tank has matured i'll add a BTA for the clowns. So can i get some solid advice on that. If you don't agree with the fish i'm prposing have a replacement to suggest please, and no yelling lol, thanks.

 

[Scooterman]

Are you saying Sailfin tang also?

 

[Basile]

Are you saying Sailfin tang also?

No no, a lawnmower blenny.

2 clowns,
a tang
a blenny thats all.

 

[Scooterman]

I think with experience you can keep lots of varying fish in a tank that size, key word experience. I'd suggest you learn about what you want as much as you can, I think IMO you can keep these fish together but in time I think a plan to deal with the tang as it grows bigger would be helpful.

Just noticed the tread is already in Lee's forum, so I'm sure he will have great input for care of these fish & maybe make better suggestions.

 

[Basile]

I think with experience you can keep lots of varying fish in a tank that size, key word experience. I'd suggest you learn about what you want as much as you can, I think IMO you can keep these fish together but in time I think a plan to deal with the tang as it grows bigger would be helpful.

Just noticed the tread is already in Lee's forum, so I'm sure he will have great input for care of these fish & maybe make better suggestions.

Thanks, yes that was my hope that he'd do that.

 

[Scooterman]

Just give him time, Lee has always been very helpful.

 

[leebca]

I think the two Anemonefish and the Blenny are fine. You still will have some room left over. However I'm not in favor of the choice of a Tang for this tank.

Tangs need long swimming space, so the recommendation is to put Tangs in tanks that are no smaller than 6 feet long. They grow fast and get large (when cared for properly). However, a Tang of under 2.5" would be fine in that tank -- until it grows over that length. This tank length requirement was mentioned in the stocking post.

I don't recommend fishes, since it is a personal choice -- what do you like comes first, then whether or not you can properly care for it. There are fine books on the market listing marine fishes available, as well as Internet sites.

The two Anemonefishes will want about 9 cubic feet of tank space to defend when and if they mate. In that size aquarium not to worry about landscaping as it relates to fish compatibility -- it's the larger tanks where that comes into play, and when fishes that are close in appearance want to be kept.

That tank would accommodate a dwarf Angel very well. There are some nice ones out there you might find attractive. Whatever you are interested in, you want to research its needs to determine if you are going to be able and willing to care for it.

So far, with posting your questions, you've shown you are the kind of hobbyist to think before leaping, and for that you are to be commended.

 

[Basile]

I think the two Anemonefish and the Blenny are fine. You still will have some room left over. However I'm not in favor of the choice of a Tang for this tank.

Tangs need long swimming space, so the recommendation is to put Tangs in tanks that are no smaller than 6 feet long. They grow fast and get large (when cared for properly). However, a Tang of under 2.5" would be fine in that tank -- until it grows over that length. This tank length requirement was mentioned in the stocking post.

I don't recommend fishes, since it is a personal choice -- what do you like comes first, then whether or not you can properly care for it. There are fine books on the market listing marine fishes available, as well as Internet sites.

The two Anemonefishes will want about 9 cubic feet of tank space to defend when and if they mate. In that size aquarium not to worry about landscaping as it relates to fish compatibility -- it's the larger tanks where that comes into play, and when fishes that are close in appearance want to be kept.

That tank would accommodate a dwarf Angel very well. There are some nice ones out there you might find attractive. Whatever you are interested in, you want to research its needs to determine if you are going to be able and willing to care for it.

So far, with posting your questions, you've shown you are the time to think before leaping, and for that you are to be commended.

Thanks, the thing that got me was your comment about fish pacing. I see lots of guys with tangs and thats all they do pace. plus with the chance of ick, who want to go throught that right , i don't, i rather make a good choice and one that wont provoque problem in the long run. As for suggestion you gave me one and i'm glad. Like you said its a personal choice however since i don't have the experience with a lot of fish, yours or other suggestions for companions for my clowns are welcome. You know my tank size, and what i have, i'll exercise my prefferences according on what is possibles and not only on my taste. I may like to have a school of blennies but i know its not possible they would fight so i don't even comtamplate that choice, thats my angle on the suggestions . So if you have more species you think would go in my tank , lets hear it. Thank for your time.

 

[Basile]

Would McCosker's Flasher Wrasse couple, or 2 female and a male would be too much for my system, with the clowns and Blenny?

 

[leebca]

That would be about the minimum tank size I would use for the pair. With the Anemonefish likly pairing up, I'd be very hesitant to introduce another pair of anything.

 

[Basile]

That would be about the minimum tank size I would use for the pair. With the Anemonefish likly pairing up, I'd be very hesitant to introduce another pair of anything.

Actually i'm not sure i have a pair( couple of clowns) I bought two....i know, i was starting out and i was not in the mating business lol. So i don't know if mine are male and female.

 

[leebca]

Unfortunately, you will have a male and a female. I say unfortunately because as the fish matures one will become the female and the other will become the male. That is how Anemonefishes work. The process is sometimes very violent. The female grows larger and to maintain their gender, the female picks on the male, sometime violently.

Two Anemonefishes of the same size will usually result in a short war until one dominates (becomes the female) the other (becomes the male).

It is generally recommended that if a hobbyist acquires two of the same or conspecific species that they differ in size from the start.

 

[Basile]

Unfortunately, you will have a male and a female. I say unfortunately because as the fish matures one will become the female and the other will become the male. That is how Anemonefishes work. The process is sometimes very violent. The female grows larger and to maintain their gender, the female picks on the male, sometime violently.

Two Anemonefishes of the same size will usually result in a short war until one dominates (becomes the female) the other (becomes the male).

It is generally recommended that if a hobbyist acquires two of the same or conspecific species that they differ in size from the start.

Well i gues i have a couple then they where different size from the start and one is , the larger one is the female. They didn't fight for long, And the female is always rubbing on my Hammers and candy cane lol. I guess they'll be ready for a BTA when time comes, in a year or so. So You wouldn't introduce another pair such has the wrasses. Ok is the Lemonpeel Angelfish would be ok or one or two Bimaculatus Anthias be better.

 

[leebca]

"Yes" to your questions.

Pairs need to define a territory, multiple pairs, unless in a huge tank (or very long tank), are likely going to have disputes.

Lemonpeel or Anthias are okay, but be sure you're able and willing to care for the Antias. They are best fed small meals 5 or 6 times a day. But if you are sure you can't feed them at least 3 times a day for sure, best to choose another.