Scooterman
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wow.hope everything goes better tomorrow, wish I could help.
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Hello everyone. As It ended up the fish are ok. All the xenia melted, as did most of the colt. I lost my RBTA, my piclapora, stylophora, red montipora digitata, green acropora, tri-color, galexia and the candy cane is brown and showing exposed skeleton. RTN is going buck wild on the SPS. Oddly enough, my blue tang and clam seem to be ok. I am not sure when it will be safe for me to order some new stuff, so I kinda gonna sit back and just do the up keep for a while. I thank you all again for your kind words and offering so much help in my time of need.
Brett
Brett
mattseattle
Well-known member
well i have more xenia for you! 
i have some montipora as well. not sure if my candy cane is ready for fragging or not.
one thing that you may invest in for the future is a pH monitor. it's a little probe you place in the tank or sump and it has a constant read out of your pH. nice little machine that could save your butt in the future if something like this happens again.
sorry about all your losses....
i have some montipora as well. not sure if my candy cane is ready for fragging or not.one thing that you may invest in for the future is a pH monitor. it's a little probe you place in the tank or sump and it has a constant read out of your pH. nice little machine that could save your butt in the future if something like this happens again.
sorry about all your losses....
Cool. What you are looking for now is a period of a month or so where things are stable. I would imagine you will have a bit a an algae battle from the die off of the surface bacteria. It shouldnt be to bad though and should be quick. Just keep an eye on things and try to keep up on maintence for this period and you should breeze through it. Keep us up to date and let us know when your back and biz and we can shuffle some starters over to ya.
Mike
Mike
I just noticed also exposed bleached white skeleton on the green with white rim montipora. With all this RTN do I have any choice but to sit there and watch everything die? I was wondering if breaking off the dead stuff could save the rest of the coral. I would imagine not since tank conditions and stress is whats causing tissue to die off. Any tips? Thank you.
jojo
Well-known member
Hey Brett. Really sorry to hear about this but I'm glad you arent giving up. If you still would like a place to keep your corals or fish till things settle down you can bring them into the shop. I got some zenia, green with white rim monti cap, and some candycane to give you when you are ready.
-JoJo
-JoJo
Brett Take some crasy glue and smear it over the died and dieing portions of the cap. then smear a tiny bit onto the tissue that is on the edge of the dieing portion this will stop the rescession. in alot of case the tissue will grow over the dried glue.
Mike
Mike
pondguy
Active member
my fiance thinks that I am a little weird talking to other reefers on the net, this just goes to show you how helpful people like us can be....it's great to see people offering a helping hand, and encouragement. Stick with the reefing no matter what happens, or you will regret it latter.......I have spent so much money on my tank that i think I could have ran a presidential campaign, .....and won! Reef keeping is not a hobbie, it's a passion that never dies.....good luck with the reef, hope it all pulls through, if not, just don't give up. Ryan
Rob Schwartz
Active member
Hi Brett,
Sorry it took so long for me to find this post. If you need any mixed water, my tank is finished it's cycle (we crashed the tank during the move), and we have no livestock in it. I will be driving to my home in redmond tonight and will be in the area until Monday evening. I would be happy to come over with a few buckets of water to help with another water change if you feel it viable.
Good luck, and what a great bunch of people aound to help!
Best,
Rob
Sorry it took so long for me to find this post. If you need any mixed water, my tank is finished it's cycle (we crashed the tank during the move), and we have no livestock in it. I will be driving to my home in redmond tonight and will be in the area until Monday evening. I would be happy to come over with a few buckets of water to help with another water change if you feel it viable.
Good luck, and what a great bunch of people aound to help!
Best,
Rob
Angelscrx
Import Fish
BCT182 said:
That has got to be the 3rd time I have heard that this week and it is still funny.
Quick update
I hadn't mentioned this but I guess it doesn't matter how much kalk you dump into a bucket since the saturaton rate is only one to two teaspoons. Well..... It said on the directions that you are to make sure that the solution is well mixed so while it was dripping I had stuck an airstone in the bucket. What ended up happening is chunks of kalk dripped into the tank. By morning time there was nothing in the dripper. Water or kalk powder. Last night I did a water change. The water I removed I saved in a bucket. I could actually see white chunks on my rock. I think it may have been kalk. So I rinsed everything in the bucket of tank water. This morning ALL of my Zoo's have started to open back up. Thats a good thing I think.
I hadn't mentioned this but I guess it doesn't matter how much kalk you dump into a bucket since the saturaton rate is only one to two teaspoons. Well..... It said on the directions that you are to make sure that the solution is well mixed so while it was dripping I had stuck an airstone in the bucket. What ended up happening is chunks of kalk dripped into the tank. By morning time there was nothing in the dripper. Water or kalk powder. Last night I did a water change. The water I removed I saved in a bucket. I could actually see white chunks on my rock. I think it may have been kalk. So I rinsed everything in the bucket of tank water. This morning ALL of my Zoo's have started to open back up. Thats a good thing I think.
piercho
Mackerel
I think you understand now Brett, but I'll make some comments for those people following the thread.
When you add the CaOH (= lime = "kalk")to your freshwater, you can agitate it mechanically to speed up the dissolution of the CaOH. I think this is what the directions meant by "well mixed". This will make a cloudy or "milky" mixture of limewater AND lime solids. Unless you are experienced using lime, you should not add this cloudy mixture to your tank. In approximately 2 hours in a closed container, the water will become clear with lime solids (excess CaOH that did not go into solution) settled at the bottom of the container. Once again, you don't want to agitate this settled solution (put the lime solids back into suspension) unless you are experienced using lime. The clear, saturated solution of limewater is then delivered slowly to the tank.
Delivering milky solutions of limewater is trickier. The advantage is that you are delivering more carbonate and calcium to the tank than with a clear solution. The disadvantage is that this places a higher demand for gas exchange on your system, increasing the risk of a pH spike.
By agitating the mixture, it never settled, and you delivered a tremendous amount of lime solids directly to your system. Gas exchange could not keep up and pH began to rise, causing the stress to the coral and fish that you observed. When the pH and carbonate levels got high enough, calcium carbonate began precipitating out of the tank solution. This caused the "snowstorm" that you saw in your tank the morning after the incident. I'm not sure about the "white chunks" on your rocks, but this could be precipitated calcium carbonate.
With that much lime delivered to your system, I'm suprised your pumps did not seize. This is one of the first places calcium carbonate will precipitate out of the tank water.
I don't have pink stylo to replace the stylo you lost. I've got cream stylo and pink birdsnest and pink poc, though. Also zoos, some montiporas, good old A. youngei, and other odd and ends you may want. I can bring them to a PSAS meeting or you can come here and pick them. Just PM. I would give it a few weeks. Your likely to see a bad nutrient bounce, unfortunately.
When you add the CaOH (= lime = "kalk")to your freshwater, you can agitate it mechanically to speed up the dissolution of the CaOH. I think this is what the directions meant by "well mixed". This will make a cloudy or "milky" mixture of limewater AND lime solids. Unless you are experienced using lime, you should not add this cloudy mixture to your tank. In approximately 2 hours in a closed container, the water will become clear with lime solids (excess CaOH that did not go into solution) settled at the bottom of the container. Once again, you don't want to agitate this settled solution (put the lime solids back into suspension) unless you are experienced using lime. The clear, saturated solution of limewater is then delivered slowly to the tank.
Delivering milky solutions of limewater is trickier. The advantage is that you are delivering more carbonate and calcium to the tank than with a clear solution. The disadvantage is that this places a higher demand for gas exchange on your system, increasing the risk of a pH spike.
By agitating the mixture, it never settled, and you delivered a tremendous amount of lime solids directly to your system. Gas exchange could not keep up and pH began to rise, causing the stress to the coral and fish that you observed. When the pH and carbonate levels got high enough, calcium carbonate began precipitating out of the tank solution. This caused the "snowstorm" that you saw in your tank the morning after the incident. I'm not sure about the "white chunks" on your rocks, but this could be precipitated calcium carbonate.
With that much lime delivered to your system, I'm suprised your pumps did not seize. This is one of the first places calcium carbonate will precipitate out of the tank water.
I don't have pink stylo to replace the stylo you lost. I've got cream stylo and pink birdsnest and pink poc, though. Also zoos, some montiporas, good old A. youngei, and other odd and ends you may want. I can bring them to a PSAS meeting or you can come here and pick them. Just PM. I would give it a few weeks. Your likely to see a bad nutrient bounce, unfortunately.
Katchupoy
Well-known member
Also, I remember Brett that you have that canister your using for your flow... Try to clean it also. Probably you have a lot of stuff stuck in it. (he is only using carbon for it). Also try to clean it and change half of the carbon or something. Not all of the carbon. OK!
wrassehole
wannabe reefmaster
dont give up dude, we all pull moron moves at one time or another.
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