Repairing a tank disaster

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BlennyBabe

Rachel
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Well I havent been on here for a while. A part of that is because I have been a little burn out on reefkeeping. All of last year I was maintaining the reef tanks at central washington university. Things went well all year and everything was thriving. Mushrooms were multiplying and leathers were taking over (in a good way). Algae was minimum and totally under control. Unfortunately around the end of spring quarter things changed drastically.

For some unknown reason the system crashed. Corals were the first to go. To me this seemed like a chemical thing. Perhaps some contamination of some sort. We did water changes like crazy, ran lots of carbon, skimmed overtime and added some absorbtive resins. Nothing much helped. The dead corals poluted the water faster than I could remove them. The cleaner shrimp were the next to go. I only know they died because of their absence at feeding time. Then more fish went missing. The six line, mandarin, some chromis (hard to tell because there were 7 of them). More and more waterchanges were done but to no avail. Spring quarter ended and I was no longer on the payroll. I had to move back home to the west side with my parents. Im not allowed to volunteer for any job that I have been hired to do so all I could do was tell my boss what needed to be done. I dont think he did everything I suggested. I came back twice over the summer to see how things were going. More fish had died. One clown, everyones favorite fish the orange spot blenny named dudley, the sailfin tank had a bacterial infection and the worst case of marine head and lateral line erosion. Cyano algae was everywhere, though you could still see some coraline underneath. The second time more fish still were gone. no more bangaii cardnals, no damsel. I was really heartbroken by then.

Well school started this wednesday and I was finally able to get my hands in the tank. I did a waterchange and all seemed well. Thursday I didnt work or check the tanks (I only have one class so I spent the day working in my yard) I came in Friday and the lionfish was dead. All the other fish (except for 5 pajamas and the already sickly looking tang) were covered in ich. I pulled what fish I could and put them in an emergency quaraitine. I went in today to check them and I had to pull two large black damsels, one male clown and the fridmani dottyback. The dogface puffer I had in QT also died.

I think that the reason for this latest bout of death is my bosses fault. I did a 75 gallon waterchange on friday (after finding the lionfish dead). I usually use a sump pump to move water from two large 100 gallon tanks into the sump. I couldnt find it. I searched everywhere. I finally found it sitting in the sump submerged. This is not good, this pump has some exposed metal (its used for boats) which was all rotted out. I have no clue how long it was sitting in there. Im no expert, but Im sure that rust isnt great for marine systems. I could just scream (but I wont cause I dont want to loose my job)
(On a side note, I froze all of them for later preservation for my ichthyology class, so at least someone can learn from the bodies) All that remains of my once magnificent tank is a handful of pajama cardinals, a sailfin tang, one bangaii cardinal and one or more (they hide) blennies. The quarantine tank just has a very sad and beat up looking panther grouper.

I feel so bad. This has been a terrible experience for me. I feel like everything is my fault. Even if I couldnt have prevented this, at least I could have been more prepared to handle the situation. The problem is, I dont know what they would have done if I hadnt been here. I usually have a sign up on the tanks for people to contact me with questions. Im so ashamed that I had to take it down. I even took down the sign thanking the biology club because I knew they would be ashamed to have their name on such a sad tank.

On a good note, the cichlid tank that I set up this spring is looking fabulous and everything is thriving.

I guess its good that I get to start over. I wasnt the one to set up the tank and things werent really done right from the start. At least now I will have control over which fish go in. I have already talked to the rest of the club and they are planning like crazy ways to raise funds again. I have a feeling there will be lots of bake sales in my future. Anyway, thanks for reading all that. I just needed to get that all out.
 
here are some pictures to help you understand my loss...

The lionfish RIP. He used to splash water at me when he was hungry.
you can also see the dogface (my personal favorite)


some of the mushrooms. The other inverts we lost were some colt corals, some toadstool leathers, zoas, palythoas, clove polyps, ricordias, an anemone, some montipora, pavona, feather dusters, serpent starfish, snails and hermits.

Here is the whole tank. Sorry I dont have any very good pictures. Now that I look back at these pictures I realize we lost even more fish than I thought. Two firefish, one flame angel, a scopas tang, and im sure a few more


 
Sorry to hear about your troubles. I think most of us have been at the point where we question if this hobby is worth it; then we see something and we get the bug again and that all disappears. In situations like yours it's often best to start from the beginning and work forward rather than looking back at what happened. In the past I've found it helpful at times to pretend you know nothing about the tank, and look at everything as though it's completely foreign. It's the little things that we usually miss, and by looking at it from a different angle we can sometimes stumble upon the real culprit. If that doesn't work do like I said above and ignore the past and start over, concentrating on what works and what doesn't. The tank looked awesome from the pictures by the way.

Clayton
 
clayswim said:
In situations like yours it's often best to start from the beginning and work forward rather than looking back at what happened.

I totally agree. I'm so sorry to hear this happened. I know how much working on the tank meant, and am glad you get to have control over the new livestock choices.

Let us know how everything goes!
 
Wow!!! I'm sure I don't know exactly how you feel, but there is only so much you could have done.
The prospect of starting over may seem like a huge project, but you will just sink right into it. All of us here know you will do a good job!!! Just make sure you leave explicit instructions when you have to take off again. That may help a little. I know tho that some people couldn't follow them even if they had them taped to their forehead for 2 years!!!
Take heart, you have a chance to redo something right, and it will last if you do it that way.
HTH
 
I sympathize with you too BlennyBabe...I know how frustrating the hobby can get. I can still remember almost throwing up one night because I just couldn't get my rocks to stack up the way I wanted them to after about 4 hrs of trying. Not really the same thing as you are experiencing, but a case of OCD which my wife always complains will be the ruin of me. There's nothing more frustrating and dissapointing when you pour your heart and soul into something, to have someone turn around and mess up the good thing you've created. This is the reason why no-one sticks their hand in my tank, and if I go away and have someone feed my fish, I bag the food in seperate baggies for each day so that they won't over feed.

About the rusted pump, I think that was a major factor in the downfall of the tank. I've seen first hand what it can do. My friend who's father owns one of the LFS here in the Bahamas, had taken over the responsibilty of taking care of a 350 gal custom saltwater aquarium in a department store. Apparently the guy who worked for the department store use to get paid a little extra to take care of the tank, and didn't like the new arrangement. My friend asked me to come down to the store with him because fish were dying and he couldn't understand why and the tank was just an utter mess from die-off. After testing and searching, we finally found what had happened. Apparently someone (we could only assume was the disgruntled employee) threw a few drywall screws into the bottom of the sump!

Anyways, enough talk (LOL) I hope everthing works out and you get things back to the way they use to be. From the pictures you've posted, it looks like you had a great set up there...Good luck!
 
ohhh girl :( i feel your pain.
its really sad to see`something that you put so much effort on.. gone.
I'm sure the next tank project is gonna be as awesome as this one :) and i can't wait to see what you are gonna be doing and don't feel bad about it because it happens to many of us.
 
Thanks for all the sympathy everyone. I am trying to figure out how to bring up the rusted pump problem to my boss. I know he will feel bad about it, but I dont want to sound accusationary. wish me luck with that.


I am excited that I get to start over and do things my way. I cant wait for this tank to stablize enough to start adding things. If people were impressed with the most common and basic saltwater fish, I cant wait to see how they react to the things I would choose. Now the only thing I have to worry about is how to get enough money to start this back up. Bake sale anyone?
 
lol yeah yeah yeah we know the Bahamas thing .. just kidding dood :D .
hmm i see you wanna sale some baking eh hmm.. well i can give you some good recipies if you like.
ohh and like i told you on one of my threads, if you want my fish.. is yours, you just gotta come over because
1- i don't knwo where Gig harbour is
2- i don't know how to drive
3-hmm i don't think i can do it with the bike :D .

and i know Krish you are gonna say something so ... sshhh dood :lol: :lol: lol !!
 
Yeah, next time you're in the seattle area and you're ready to start filling it back up, pm me and I'll see what can be fragged!
 
Update

Well the tank is finally looking healthy. The cyano outbreaks are under control and all the snails and hermits are back to their usual activity level. The two fish that are still alive, a very distressed sailfin tank with severe HLLE, and one lone chormis, are eating well and acting normal. The nitrates are down to 10ppm and everything else reads where it should. Im so glad that things are straightening out finally. We had our first bake sale this week. At the end of our second day the total was around $150. I cant wait to begin planning the restocking. I have to hold off on that for a while because we are planning a remodel to the area behind the tanks to allow for better access to the tank and more room for equiptment. Also we will have the plumming rearranged so I dont have to haul buckets of DI from across the building. The DI faucet will be hooked up directly to the tank and it will be automated too. Im bummed out that we cant start restocking right away. Oh well its for the best right? Im just concerned that it wont happen in a timely fashion. I guess time will tell.

Also, my advisor and I are planning to go to the president to see if we can make the upkeep of the tank a part of the universities duty instead of just the biology department. If we can do that, then we would have a gauranteed budget each year and I wont have to scrimp and save so much. So send all your good thought my way...
 
Glad to hear the tank situation is getting better! Definately, I'll be sending good thoughts your way. Keep us updated!
 
I feel badly for your loss, but I'm glad that you're looking at the tank half full now! :)

I don't know if you are allowed to do this, but you could ask LFS and online destributors for discounts or donations and you could post contributors in a newsletter or something, kinda that "free advertising" idea to offset the stocking costs...

Good Luck - and keep us posted!
 
BlennyBabe said:
Well the tank is finally looking healthy. The cyano outbreaks are under control and all the snails and hermits are back to their usual activity level. The two fish that are still alive, a very distressed sailfin tank with severe HLLE, and one lone chormis, are eating well and acting normal. The nitrates are down to 10ppm and everything else reads where it should. Im so glad that things are straightening out finally. We had our first bake sale this week. At the end of our second day the total was around $150. I cant wait to begin planning the restocking. I have to hold off on that for a while because we are planning a remodel to the area behind the tanks to allow for better access to the tank and more room for equiptment. Also we will have the plumming rearranged so I dont have to haul buckets of DI from across the building. The DI faucet will be hooked up directly to the tank and it will be automated too. Im bummed out that we cant start restocking right away. Oh well its for the best right? Im just concerned that it wont happen in a timely fashion. I guess time will tell.

Also, my advisor and I are planning to go to the president to see if we can make the upkeep of the tank a part of the universities duty instead of just the biology department. If we can do that, then we would have a gauranteed budget each year and I wont have to scrimp and save so much. So send all your good thought my way...
:) :) :) BlennyBabe....out of disaster comes Great Good.... n your on the way..... ! cw. hope you can keep us posted...?
 

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