Krish
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water change during cycling?
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Little Luey
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I hope he makes it.
In this hobby nothing happens quickly! take your time and do not rush nature, it is just not possible. Avoid impulse buys and at the end you will have a happier reef tank and will also save money.
In this hobby nothing happens quickly! take your time and do not rush nature, it is just not possible. Avoid impulse buys and at the end you will have a happier reef tank and will also save money.
liveforphysics
Banned
Small changes like 15% will be doing essentially nothing for you. I would also not add any medicines.
You need the ammonia converting bacteria matabolism rate to equal the rate that your tank produces ammonia.
If you know of any heavily stocked tanks you could get a cup of sand from to distribute thinly over the surface of your substrate, you could get the ammonia level to drop and hold zero in just a few hours.
Ammonia processing bacteria are fast to grow an aquate population if things like WC'ing arent screwing up nature finding its equilibrium.
Ammonia will be around zero'ish about the time that the problem will start.
NO2 will be your problem. This is why getting some sand from a heavily stocked tank will be even more valuable.
I strongly recomend getting your tang to a safe location for a while during this process.
Once he is out of the tank, DO NOT waterchange, and continue to feed the tank while its cycleing. Just check NO2 level after about a week (stronger circulation and/or more sand from a heavily stocked tank will influence`how rapidly the NO2 level zero's out).
Once NO2 reads zero, and NO3 is definately dectable, your tank will be ready to hold the tang.
You need the ammonia converting bacteria matabolism rate to equal the rate that your tank produces ammonia.
If you know of any heavily stocked tanks you could get a cup of sand from to distribute thinly over the surface of your substrate, you could get the ammonia level to drop and hold zero in just a few hours.
Ammonia processing bacteria are fast to grow an aquate population if things like WC'ing arent screwing up nature finding its equilibrium.
Ammonia will be around zero'ish about the time that the problem will start.
NO2 will be your problem. This is why getting some sand from a heavily stocked tank will be even more valuable.
I strongly recomend getting your tang to a safe location for a while during this process.
Once he is out of the tank, DO NOT waterchange, and continue to feed the tank while its cycleing. Just check NO2 level after about a week (stronger circulation and/or more sand from a heavily stocked tank will influence`how rapidly the NO2 level zero's out).
Once NO2 reads zero, and NO3 is definately dectable, your tank will be ready to hold the tang.
mmkeeper
Well-known member
Get some bio spira and it will help.
plack
Sea Otter
I would recommend a 500 ML bottle of this
Seachem Has a Bacterial Product called
STABILITY
it will: " Rapidly and safely establish the Aquarium bio filter in Fresh water and Marine systems thereby preventing #1 cause of fish death...Aerobic,Anaerobic,and Facultative Bacteria which facilitate the breakdown of waste organins,Ammonia,Nitrite,Nitrate..."
at least one of our sponsors sells it !!! and it works safely and fast and is not really expensive either and yes I have am using it
Seachem Has a Bacterial Product called
STABILITY
it will: " Rapidly and safely establish the Aquarium bio filter in Fresh water and Marine systems thereby preventing #1 cause of fish death...Aerobic,Anaerobic,and Facultative Bacteria which facilitate the breakdown of waste organins,Ammonia,Nitrite,Nitrate..."
at least one of our sponsors sells it !!! and it works safely and fast and is not really expensive either and yes I have am using it
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Krish
RF STAFF
I've used that same stuff before that "plack" recommended and it is some really good stuff.
liveforphysics
Banned
Its not about what's more toxic.
Its about simple math.
The rate ammonia is added is a constant.
While measureable ammonia is present, the growth of the ammonia to NO2 bacteria is growing. This type of growth is exponential, meaning it starts out very slowly, then explodes in population growth.
So, what happens to nitrite levels as this ammonia to nitrite bacteria population hits the explodeing point? The rate nitrite is added to the tank is very different than the rate the ammonia was added. Ammonia was added in a nice gentle linear fashion, with a big head start on multiplying bacteria. The nitrate will be added in a logarithmic fashion.
This is a very bad thing for a bacteria population attempting to reach an equilibrium. Much more difficult, and involveing groups of exponential growth and death in cycles. IE, the term cycleing.
This little page gives a really simple way to understand this growth, and thinking logically about how the growth and death of the first chain in the nitrogen cycle effects the growth and death of the latter chains.
Fortunately, where its all going towards, nitrate, is quite safe to reasonable levels (<40ppm).
Its about simple math.
The rate ammonia is added is a constant.
While measureable ammonia is present, the growth of the ammonia to NO2 bacteria is growing. This type of growth is exponential, meaning it starts out very slowly, then explodes in population growth.
So, what happens to nitrite levels as this ammonia to nitrite bacteria population hits the explodeing point? The rate nitrite is added to the tank is very different than the rate the ammonia was added. Ammonia was added in a nice gentle linear fashion, with a big head start on multiplying bacteria. The nitrate will be added in a logarithmic fashion.
This is a very bad thing for a bacteria population attempting to reach an equilibrium. Much more difficult, and involveing groups of exponential growth and death in cycles. IE, the term cycleing.
This little page gives a really simple way to understand this growth, and thinking logically about how the growth and death of the first chain in the nitrogen cycle effects the growth and death of the latter chains.
Fortunately, where its all going towards, nitrate, is quite safe to reasonable levels (<40ppm).
