found this dony know what it is

[Jlux23]

Picked up a rock off the beach I thought would look cool in my tank and turns out it had 2 enenamies on it that are white with bright pink tips I don't know what they are but I'm assuming they might die in a heated tank so if someone with a cold tank wants them they are beautiful!!! Come save some lives!! I'm too lazy to upload pics cus I don't know my photobucket password anymore but ill text pics 425-314-9368

 

[Jlux23]

Don't* .... Jeez

 

[josh88]

Get tapatalk. Lol makes posting pics easy

HTC EVO

 

[kevnkev]

They're Anthopleura elegantissima. Beautiful little anemones. They are clonal, which means they split down the middle to divide into two daughter anemones. You'll see huge boulders covered in them, even large stretches of beach, and all the individuals are genetically identical. They're white because they probably weren't exposed to much light - in a brighter habitat they would be bright green. They are one of our few local examples of animals that harbor endosymbiotic algae, like most of the tropical cnidarians do.

They will definitely die in a heated tank.

If you picked it up off of a beach and it had life on it that won't survive in your tropical tank (i.e. ANYthing from Washington waters) it's on you to take it back to the beach. It's irresponsible and cruel to cross your fingers and wait for someone with a cold water tank to come get them and save some lives. Add to that it's illegal in Washington to collect anything from the marine environment that is not explicitly called out in the WDFW fishing regulations.

 

[kpiotrowski]

contact nemcrazy. he does coldwater.

 

[Derbird]

I would not put it back in to the ocean. There is now bacteria and other life from your tank on the rock and they could spread to the local waters. Not worth the risk. If you can put them in a bucket until you find a home they would most likely survive better then in a tropical tank. A air stone would be nice too.

 

[NanaReefer]

Whatever's on the rock from the tank will die in the much much colder waters.
Return the nem home!

 

[NemCrazy]

So those are aggregating anemones and as was pointed out they form large colonies all over the intertidal area. They are some of the toughest anemones you will see. But they will die for sure in a tropical tank. They are not endangered but it is illegal to collect anything not listed in the regs though. Did you feed them because that might determine whether they should be returned. I've rescued nems before from people who thought they might give it a shot not knowing all the ins and outs. If people want to collect them it's legal in Oregon with license and Coldwater marine Aquatics would be more than happy to hook people up. But Coldwater systems are a different animal all together and have much different requirements. I have two tanks and am finishing up the build on my 140. And they are definately not done reef style. And when waterfalls hit 70 this summer I lost several critters. But if your interested in Coldwater tanks read my builds. It tool 4 months for my 45 to properly cycle so it's not something to rush into. I love those aggregating nems though. Given the right conditions they are bulletproof.

 

[iroll253]

They're Anthopleura elegantissima. Beautiful little anemones. They are clonal, which means they split down the middle to divide into two daughter anemones. You'll see huge boulders covered in them, even large stretches of beach, and all the individuals are genetically identical. They're white because they probably weren't exposed to much light - in a brighter habitat they would be bright green. They are one of our few local examples of animals that harbor endosymbiotic algae, like most of the tropical cnidarians do.

They will definitely die in a heated tank.

If you picked it up off of a beach and it had life on it that won't survive in your tropical tank (i.e. ANYthing from Washington waters) it's on you to take it back to the beach. It's irresponsible and cruel to cross your fingers and wait for someone with a cold water tank to come get them and save some lives. Add to that it's illegal in Washington to collect anything from the marine environment that is not explicitly called out in the WDFW fishing regulations.

I agree you should take it back to the sound asap even though their chance of survival now is unlikely due to the shock and mishandling.

I would not put it back in to the ocean. There is now bacteria and other life from your tank on the rock and they could spread to the local waters. Not worth the risk. If you can put them in a bucket until you find a home they would most likely survive better then in a tropical tank. A air stone would be nice too.

This doesnt make sense to me. I dont see how some random reef tank bacteria could do any damage to anything in the puget sound..

 

[returnofsid]

Removing life, from native cold waters, with the hopes of rehoming it is not only very irresponsible, it's illegal, for most species. Legal species to collect, with the proper license, are expressly listed by the Washington State Fish and Wildlife. As others have said, I'd suggest returning the rock to it's native waters and not doing this any more.

 

[kevnkev]

I would not put it back in to the ocean. There is now bacteria and other life from your tank on the rock and they could spread to the local waters. Not worth the risk. If you can put them in a bucket until you find a home they would most likely survive better then in a tropical tank. A air stone would be nice too.

This doesnt make sense to me. I dont see how some random reef tank bacteria could do any damage to anything in the puget sound..

I wonder about this. It's unlikely that any of the animals, plants or algae from our tropical tanks will survive in Puget Sound, but bacteria and viruses can be a hardy bunch. Once something hits an enclosed tank it should probably stay there or be euthanized (in a freezer, not by being flushed or left out in the sun) to prevent unwanted invasions of macro or microscopic organisms.

 

[NemCrazy]

I agree with kev and here is why. The sand bed in my 20g was what I used for my nano bta tank for a year. I through it in the garage and a couple months of cold and one day I checked and it was still good so I filled it with saltwater and it barely cycled when I threw in livestock. So there are things that will live but not ones we can see necessarily.

 

[kpiotrowski]

Im gonna put in my two cents and give mother nature the credit she deserves and say that I can't belive that returning a rock to the puget sound after it has been in tropical tank will cause some sort of disruption that she won't balance out. Additionaly, on the big scale I say we are all gulity of robbing living creatures from their natural habitat so that we may enjoy them in our homes....in the cesspool of an environment that we create in our tanks that we THINK is good water quality cus we do all we do to try to provide that. Fact is even if you have a 1000 gallon tank, as soon as you throw in a damsel it is overstocked compared to the open ocean.


how many of you continuosly monitor ph for example and what kind of daily swings are you getting? I run my fuge on reverse light cycle, run alk around 10, and have my apex controller drip in alk at the begining of my ph drop at night and still have swings of up to 2.

at the end of the day I say that those corals that we think are difficult to keep....are not delicate. It is only that the ones we do keep alive are that tough and tolerant of what we put them through.

When we admire our tanks and take pride in our husbandry that feeling of pride should be accompanied by an equal amount of guilt and respect for those living creatures behind the glass we have imprisoned. Perhaps if an alien race were to abduct us solely for their amusement we would better understand.:violin:

 

[NemCrazy]

I agree Kevin there is nothing permanent gonna happen to those just put them at the base of a big rocknear shore and they will live. There's not to many marine creatures tougher than those nems. I especially would hate to hear they because of an honest mistake. My point with my last post was more to let people know that biological processes are similar but just run at different speeds.