SueT
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thats what I was wondering also. My ca.,alk., and mag. levels have been on the normal high end and I was wondering if them being at that level and my starting to use this would naturally bring them more to within NSW levels.
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DonW
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I think if the corals are growing a little faster then the demand will be a little higher, so I guess that would bring them down. I would think how it effects them would be based on how well their being fed now. Based on the increase in growth Id say mine were under fed. Kind of makes me wonder about my BB tank method being a little to clean.
Don
Don, what is your fish load like?
redrooster
Landshark
I'm shocked so many people on here know what glutamine is. I am going to try something similiar, but without the oysters. I am goint to start adding a little glutamine to the zoo/phyto mix I feed and see if that has any effect. I get 2 lbs of pure glutamine for $54 so it's pretty cheap. The only amino acid that I have seen scientifically proven to create HGH (at least in humans) is L-Arginine. It is also used in high doses to treat burns, surgical inciscions, and such. I might also try that in a seperate experiment. I definitely know that the two mixed toghether plus lots of protein works well for me.
DonW
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Ive got 6" Sailfin tang, 3" Purple tang, 3" Forgot his name tang, Blue chromis, Psudo chromis, Lawnmower, 2 clowns and at least 21" of clams in a 110 . Besides the oysters I feed 1 10x10 sheet nori and 1 cube 3/4" x 3/4" of blender mush in the morning and then 1 10x10 sheet of nori and some red sea zooplanktont at night, so I feed what I would concider pretty heavy.
Don
DonW
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I assume since your feeding "zoo/phyto mix your feeding softies. Would be interesting to see how the aminos effect softies. I'd only use one type at a time then add the second a few month later. I'm going to stick with the Gln for 6 months more then hit my dad up for the next step.
Don
redrooster
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I am feeding just about everything. I have a yellow cup, fungia, acro, montipora, pavona, tubestrea, several types of trachy brain, maze brain, hydronaphora, zoo's, 6 different types of shrooms, ricordia, cabbage leather (almost gone finally), green spaghetti leather, a couple colors of lobo brain, yellow polyps, a green/purple rock anenome,and a clam, and a partridge in a pear tree. The phyto is for softies and clam, the zoo is for LPS/SPS, but I think the softies eat it as well. With the mix of corals I have nothing goes uneaten.
I will do just the GLN at first, maybe for like 60 days. Pause for 30 days, and then maybe try the L-arginine for 60 days. I feed pretty sparsely 6 days a week as far as solid food for the fish, and then give a good heavy feeding on Sunday to make sure the stuff at the bottom of the foodchain are getting something. Monday-Friday feeding basically nothing makes it half way down the water column.
I will do just the GLN at first, maybe for like 60 days. Pause for 30 days, and then maybe try the L-arginine for 60 days. I feed pretty sparsely 6 days a week as far as solid food for the fish, and then give a good heavy feeding on Sunday to make sure the stuff at the bottom of the foodchain are getting something. Monday-Friday feeding basically nothing makes it half way down the water column.
DonW
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SueT
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I consider what I feed as a fairly heavy feeding. I feed 2 x daily of PE brand mysis, 1 cube enriched brine, nori. I have a powder blue tang, a large copperband, a large genicanthus angel, 6 green chromis and a fat mandarin. I feed the "tank" once weekly with either, cyclop-eeze{frozen}, DT's oyster eggs or rotifers. Maybe twice weekly but thats only if I remember.
SueT
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Jarred oysters from safeway!
Thanks, was wondering just that!!! We don't have Safeways, but least I know where to look in the grocery stores we do have.
ReeferPatt
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Have been reading a thread over on RC about the Italian tanks, incredible tanks by the way, some are using hgh, but they freeze it first, supposedly the releases 4-5 different amino acids and that's where they say they get the growth. Also they're perimeters are thru the roof. Ca.550, alk 14-16 and here's the big one Mag. 1500-1600.
Very intense lighting, very high flow. They are going to release an article in reefitalia magazine soon with results from studies from two different methods being used. One with hgh and one without but with similar results and legal I believe.
Very intense lighting, very high flow. They are going to release an article in reefitalia magazine soon with results from studies from two different methods being used. One with hgh and one without but with similar results and legal I believe.
SueT
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you ready to start it ReeferPatt??
Jan
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Bumping this old thread....
DonW and others using similar coral feeding approaches,
Are you still using this method and on what schedule? Don, in particular I couldn't find what schedule you are using--once a week? every day? or...?
thanks
DonW and others using similar coral feeding approaches,
Are you still using this method and on what schedule? Don, in particular I couldn't find what schedule you are using--once a week? every day? or...?
thanks
DonW
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I'm not doing it any more. Ive gotten rid of most of my sps and the three that I kept are way overgrown and to large for my tank and are leaving asap. My clams take up the majority of my tank. Beside the fact that we decided to fix up the house and sell, Ive lost interest knowing that a move is just going to end up killing something or everything any ways.
Don
SueT
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Due a family emergency I have been off the tank feeding{BluCoral} for 2 weeks. No ill effects, growth hasn't stopped either. When things slow down I will start feeding the pappone again. I will go back to 1/2 cube once weekly and work back up to my 1 cube every 5 days.
ReeferPatt
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If your going to do this feeding method start slowly. Once a week at most for say 4-6 weeks then you can start increasing the frequency. I myself have slowed way down due to the fact that the tank is getting way to over grown, no more room. Will start back up again when I get my larger tank up and running. Going to a 200gal. tank.
Make sure to use fresh shell fish, live if possible.5 Clams,5 Oysters,5 Mussels and 5 shrimp, 250ml of ro/di water a tablespoon of table sugar 500mg of asperatic acid. You want to blend this for approx. 10 minutes. Stopping every few minutes to allow to cool the blades. You can use frozen ro/di ice cubes if you want to help keep everything cool but try not to use to much otherwise it will water down the recipe to much. Freeze into small cubes. You can use empty frozen brine shrimp cube trays if needed for making your cubes. Add amino acids approx. 2 hrs before lights out. Either turn off your skimmer or turn it down so it can't skim off the food. Feed the cube/cubes (depending on how large your tank is) right at lights out. Turn your skimmer back on either in the morning or when lights come back on. Hope this helps.
Damsel13
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"Gin was mothers milk to me" (My Fair Lady with Audrey Hepburn) Oh, but that is the other kind I am glad herefishyfishy made clear that it wasn't really gin but GLN cause being the newbie I am I thought you meant Gin
Jan
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thanks very much.
