PVC glue for my plumbing?

[billaweed]

How long should I wait before running water through my plumbing? I dont know if too soon will transfer chemicals into my tank or not..

thanks
Brandon

 

[mmkeeper]

You don't have to wait long. At most a couple of hours. Its is more important that the glue is dry for a good hold.

 

[billaweed]

My mag 5 stopped working immediatly after installation.

water flooded my floor.. i wanna just toss my tank

 

[bbehring]

might have been the pvc shavings that clogged the impeller? Might pull the pump, clean and then re-install. Why did your floor flood when the pump shut off? Should be set up for power outage etc and not flood your floor.

 

[billaweed]

well.. this is my first sump installation. I took the pump apart and found that the shaft in the center of the impeller snapped. pretty ****ty for just buying it! now I have a full sump, I spent all the time setting it up, and now my pump broke with now LFS open. gat damn thats frustrating!! makes you want to throw your tank out the window and give up!!!!!!

arghhhhhhhhhhhhh...

 

[hdben]

Try to use this as a learning experience, this hobby can be frustrating at times. I know I have had my share of problems. Good luck.

 

[billaweed]

well all was fine until my pump broke. the sump return and overflow was working fine for a second, then my pump stopped working and my floor flooded. Now I have all this stuff set up for a sump..

sorry for whining guys. I hate putting money into things that dont work.

anyone know how good Indoor Reef is at replacing items that dont work?

 

[Reefergeorge]

Your floor shouldn't have flooded.
Did you put a siphon break on your return?

 

[billaweed]

Your floor shouldn't have flooded.
Did you put a siphon break on your return?

thats what I've been told, but the fact is that it did. about 5 gallons on my floor. I don't know what a "siphon break" looks like or even is for that matter. all I know is, is that I set everything up and when my pump broke (somehow?) water started pooring out of my sump and the water level in my tank went way down.

 

[Scooterman]

If you don't have a siphon break you will flood your sump every time. Just think of what happens when power shuts off? You have to stop the water from siphoning continually when the pump or power shuts off.

 

[billaweed]

ok.. then yes I do have a siphon break. but for some reason I still flooded it. I think it has something to do with my pump braking? i dont know

 

[billaweed]

maybe i just did something completely wrong...

 

[Scooterman]

If you had a siphon break & it worked sufficiently for your tank, It would of stopped water after the lines drained into the sump (as in a complete power failure or pump stop), what it does is suck in air to stop the siphon. You must test it to make sure it is working properly, I test mine often, maybe weekly! You should be able to loose total power & only a small amount of water should back flow into the sump.
Now with that said, If your pump had a crack & leaked water but was still pumping then that would be another problem & it could flood your sump & stand & floors.

 

[Reefergeorge]

I don't know what a "siphon break" looks like or even is for that matter. all I know is, is that I set everything up and when my pump broke (somehow?) water started pooring out of my sump and the water level in my tank went way down.

I don't know what your setup looks like. But all you have to do is drill a small hole at water level on your return line. So when the pump stops air gets sucked in instead of water.

 

[krisfal]

I don't know what a "siphon break" looks like or even is for that matter.

A siphon break can be as easy as drilling a small hole in your return line that is just a little bit below where the normal water level is. This hole will typically be under water during use, but in the case of pump failure or power outage it will begin to suck air once the water level drops below the hole and thus stop the siphon. The key is placing the hole so that it begins sucking air before the sump is full.

I know I kept chickening out and shutting down my valves insteading of letting my water totally back drain until the siphon broke. Since then I had a power outage and it worked exactly like planned, with a couple of inches to spare in the sump

 

[loohunter]

you probaly just had your sump to full

 

[twilliard]

This has gone from Glue to Sump... FAST

I have "glued and used" my piping many times.
When PVC glue hits water it solidifies. Pull out the floating glue and your good to go.
Something is toxic for only as long as you leave it in.

 

[billaweed]

I think you may have hit the nail on the head! I talked to the guy that built my sump and he said I filled it to the wrong level. BUT, that is only a "possible" problem.

you probaly just had your sump to full

Thanks for your help guys! I hope I can fix this. I need to get another internal pump. I just bought this mag 5 and since its broke I may try another brand.

 

[bbehring]

Don't give up! You should be able to narrow the problem down, especially with those here to help on RF. Might provide a quick run down of the quipment you have including the dims of the sump and how you have it all plumbed. Also siphon type/mfr so others with experience with the same equipment or experience can chime in and help. I use a mag 5 for my return from sump to tank and haven't heard of a new unit that with the shaft snapping off. Place of purchase or direct to danner might be able to get you a new unit ASAP.

Did the water come from a leaky connection in your pump or over the top of your sump? Sounds like maybe your sump is too small for the added water volumn after shut down? Here's a sump size calc from RC that might come in handy.

 

[Scooterman]

I think you may have hit the nail on the head! I talked to the guy that built my sump and he said I filled it to the wrong level. BUT, that is only a "possible" problem.



Thanks for your help guys! I hope I can fix this. I need to get another internal pump. I just bought this mag 5 and since its broke I may try another brand.

Look at the Eheim pumps, you pay more but get a much better pump IMO! If you overfilled the sump & it still dumped several gallons on the floor that means you should still break the siphon sooner, so when you get it going again, make sure you can shut down completely & not overfill the sump.