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08-16-07

Been an interesting week at work....and with the tank.
Not really gonna get into work except to say that heat makes people do stupud things and alot of stupid things have been done in our town lately.

Regarding the tank...
I have some pictures this time to post so thats something at least...

Its been 4 days with the Berghia Nudi's in the tank and I havent seen a single aptasia disappear. According to Salty Underground's website, Berghia's will starve to death after 5-7 w/o feeding. So I'm really convinced that the Berghias were blown off the rockwork by the current in the tank and went into the overflows.....which sucks.

So....I did some reading up on various butterfly fish and looked hard at the Raccon Butterfly's like Lisa at Salty Underground suggested. According to Scott Michael's book "Angel Fish and Butterfly Fish" (Vol 3 of his Reef Fishes series of books), the Raccoon Butterfly fish Chaetodon lunula), has a pretty varied diet with the Hawaiian fish not known for going after hard coral polyps predominantly, but the African varients do go after hard coral polyps....so that ones out. Checked several other species of Butterfly's out, and saw a few that I thought were pretty, but were potential coral eaters....and were expensive. Then I saw this guy:

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Its a Caribbean Long Nose Butterfly Fish. Krish probably sees them all the time. Before anyone asks...I got him from Live Aquaria, and paid about 1/3 of the price listed the marine center's website. He arrives Saturday. Live Aquaria says he's eating aptasia, and according to Scott Michael's book this butterfly is hardy and common. He rates fish on a 1-5 scale for difficulty in keeping...1 being almost impossible, and 5 being tough to kill even with a stick...
For reference, he rates the standard Copperband Butterfly a 2 on his scale, and this fish a 4.

He lists its diet as polychaete worms, nemertean worms, crustaceans, the pedicellaria of urchins (tube feet), fish eggs and black coral polyps. He states this fish readily acclimates if provided a proper captive environment,and can be kept in a deep water reef aquarium, but there is a moderate risk it will begin picking at some large polyp hard corals, and gorgonians, and will also eat tube worms.
This particular fish is rather small at 2.5 inches in size, and reaching a max size of 3.9 inches. I'm hoping its small enough that it wont even consider going after my Ritteri...and if it does, the clowns can protect it well enough. If it does and they cant, the Ritteri Anemone will be moved to the 120 until the Butterfly fish has eaten all the aptasia. Then it goes to a LFS for credit.

I also ordered a pair of Togan Anthias, (Pseudanthias flavicauda), from www.phishybusiness.com.

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I have ordered from PB in the past, and had great results. I got my Red Sea Regal Angel from them, and my Ritteri Anemone form them as well. The Ritteri has been in my care since March 10th of 2006, and the Regal has been in my care since Sept 27th of 2006. Both are doing great. I dont know what Serdar, (the owner of PB) does, or how he does it, but he has some amazing fish that are eating incredibly well. I spoke with him over the phone about the Anthias, and asked what he was feeding them. he told me they were the most aggressive feeding anthias he had in the store. He told me they are taking flake food, mysis, brine shrimp, nori, and prime reef....he said they were in a tank with several larger angels and were feeding just fine with them in the tank. They also arrive on Saturday.

Finally,
Last Friday, 8-10-2007, I ordered a beautiful purple H.crispa anemone from Divers Den on Live Aquaria.

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I already have a small purple H.crispa in my 10 gallon tank with the Dwarf Moray, but liked the color of this one and felt they would do fine together.
(Look closely at the tentacles of this anemone.....)

Here is what arrived on Monday from Live Aquaria

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This is a M.doreensis anemone.....pretty, but not what I ordered. Ironically, its the same species of anemone I just gave away because it was wandering around the tank and parked itself almost on top of my H.crispa. SO contacted Live Aquaria and spoke with the Customer Service Manager. They looked at the pics I just posted, realized the anemone was in fact the one in the picture they posted on the website, but it had been mislabeled, and they offered me a credit for the anemone. Which I accepted...

So thats been my week with the tank.

Nick
 
Those look nice, should be nice additions. Believe me Nick, I'm dealing with my chiller issues now & know the trials of trying to get things right, hang in there man.
 
Hi Nick,
I know the heat makes me do crazy things- not break the law thank goodness. Nice pictures. So you are saying that type of butterfly will not starve if he/she eats all your aiptasia? BTW nice looking fish and nice size.
 
Scott, sorry to hear about your chiller issues.....its not good when things that essential to our tanks go down or dont work properly.

Deb,
The idea is to get the fish eating other things after it eats all the aptasia in the tank. According to everything I've read, they do well in captivity. My big fear is that it will go after my Ritteri anemone....cause then I wont be able keep it beyond aptasia removal.

Nick
 
Yes, but this is an Atlantic/Caribbean fish, and anemones in the Atlantic/Caribbean dont get very large, and arent hosted by hostil clownfish......so I've got a reasonable shot at success with this.

Of course, there is the possibility that the Butterfly gets too close to the anemone, and gets eaten by it.....:rolleyes:

Nick
 
08-18-2007

Got the fish today. The female Anthias was DOA. The male looked fine. The butterfly was doing what butterfly's do...which is that weird wary but not scared of you thing where they raise up their fins defensively, and back into a corner and dare you to come after them...

Drip acclimated everyone in buckets for an hour before putting them in the tank. The Anthias went into the 120. Lights will remain off for the day on the 120. In the 58 the Butterfly wasnt in for more than 5 minutes before he started picking at the rockwork, so I turned the lights on in the tank.
There have been a few territorial squabbles between the Butterfly and the Royal Gramma, but the Butterfly did the whole "Aint Skeered" routine with the gramma, and no fights.

The Butterfly REALLY likes the small feather dusters. He's going after them with a vengance. Doesnt seem remotely interested in aptasia, the Ritteri anemone, or any of the acro's...
I'm hoping the aptasia just arent as tasty as the mini feather dusters, but will get eaten eventually.

Called PB about the DOA female Anthias. They immediately said theyd send out a replacement when I was ready. Its going to have to be Monday for Tuesday pickup.

Pics will follow later.

Nick
 
Yeah that sucked....the female was half the size of the male. The male is swimming around the 120...seems to be fine.

Nick
 
will be waiting for some pics. Hope the butterfly eats some of your aptaisa. i just went to town on the ones i have with some aptaisa control hope that will do the trick for a Little while. I havent seen any of the Berghia in the tank have you?????
 
Havent been able to take pics yet....sorry about that. I'm now on nightshift and my schedule is goofed up at the moment.
I will try and get some shortly.

The Butterfly is still hunting for mini dusters, and worms, and has thus far left the aptasia completely alone. However, I've noticed that several of my aptasia are missing. So the Berghia's are doing there job. It would be really nice if the Butterfly decided to go on an aptasia rampage...

I had to order a new regulator, needlevalve, and solenoid for my calcium reactor today. The previous one was pretty beat up when I got it (purchased used). My Co2 tank was used up and I got it filled up yesterday....have not been able to get it dialed in correctly since....the bubble count is not stable and keeps increasing well over what I want it to be.

I ordered the new regulator and 2 containers of Gen-X reactor media as well....the old stuff isnt completely gone, but I will most likely just picth it anyway to prevent clogging. Decided to buy these from www.thereefstop.com which is psuedo local to me...over in Belleville IL.

Hope it doesnt take too long to get here. Not happy w/ my calcium reactor not running.

Nick
 
Six weeks to 2 months seems to be the key time for one to come back from the dead, mark the spots where you see them & keep track because they will come back, I'm not kidding about these, to me it was more of a pain than Razor algae, at least the razor grew slow & I just had to throw the rock away because even cooking didn't kill it.

I found these a while back, probably the same as you already have.

http://www.saltyunderground.com/
 
08-22-2007
The male Anthias jumped out of the tank yesterday. I didnt find it until it was too late. Lisa from Salty Underground had warned me about keeping a lid on the tank with the Anthias, but I didnt get around to it fast enough....
Not happy with that chain of events.

Something is definately eating some of the aptasia on the rock work, but its not the butterfly fish. So far all its done is wipe out mini feather dusters and squabble with my Royal Gramma. Its a neat fish, very curious and constantly moving around hunting and searching for things. It has not expressed any interest in either my Ritteri anemone or aptasia.

Hopefully I'll get my new CO2 regulator in soon...

Nick
 
Nope, but I'm told by Lisa from Salty Underground that is usually the case.

Nick
 
Nick how is the fight with aptasia going? I gotta know because it was a long fight with me & I though It had it under control but in time they keep coming back in force.
 
Got the RF CO2 gauge and needlevalve going today. Good construction, easy to adjust. For some reason, it did not work initially, even though the solenoid was powered up, (orange light indicates power...no light = no power to solenoid), the tank was fully open and so was the needlevalve. I unplugged the solenoid, and plugged it back in...and got a giant stream of CO2 bubble's....so things are working perfectly now.

Thanks to Mark at The Reef Stop for sending that out to me. Evidently, the Gen -X Media is tough to get at the moment, so its either on back order or Mark was going to help me find something else comparable...not really sure which.

Saw a Berghia today...it was out in the open with the lights on....and looked white. According to Lisa, that means its really hungry. So I used the pippette that she thoughtfully supplied with the nudi's and moved it to another area where there are some more aptasia. It went right after the one I placed it close to.

There are more aptasia still in the tank....but oddly enough, some of the smaller ones in different areas than where the Berghia were placed are disappearing. So...either the Berghia are reproducing, (which would be nice) or the butterfly has decided to go after some of them, (which would also be nice)

We'll see.

Nick
 

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