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have u added your 2nd clown fish yet gabby i think if the new fish is bout half the size they should be alright althought every fish has a mentality
wouldnt mind setting up a tank with only clowns and anenomes

no dood i haven't, i might do that pretty soon i'm just trying to figure out if it would be a good idea :p :) .
 
spongebob lover said:
i have one question
I believe i got it, but just to make sure... do you think the best way to go with my Ocellaris female is to introduce the baby/s with a specimen container?
because Maroons are mean, but what about an Ocellaris that doesn't have a partner right now

It is unlikely that you would need a specimen container to introduce a smaller ocellaris to an already larger ocellaris in a tank.

Best,

Ilham
 
I'm loving your info on clownfish, I have a bonded percula pair that will not go anywhere without the other. They still have not breed yet. I want to raise clown babies. They are one of my favorite fish. Here lately the little one which I can only assume is the male compared to his huge girlfriend was chasing her around their tank trying to drive her over to the fake anemone that they have as a home. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Any idea on what I can do to get them to spawn? great site.!!:cool:
 
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Spawning clownfish

I have a pair of clownfish....not sure which...Ocelarious or perc.
They have spawned 16 times since they have mated. The hatch only lasts up until the 9 or 10th day and either most or all of them disappears overnight.
Are they missing something in the diet? I've noticed that the mother will come by and inspect the eggs every so often and rips one off the rock and eats it. I've noticed them eating eggs that don't cling to the rock as well but thats to be exspected. I saw one actually hatch when there were only 13 left and one darted out into the flow of water and zap the mother went after it and ate it. So I am wondering if she eats them all. The dad fish stands quard the whole time fanning and cleanning them. Interesting to watch. Spawning and hatching is now predictable by keeping track on the calender.
So the big question is...how do we keep the babies alive?
 
I have a pair of clownfish....not sure which...Ocelarious or perc.
They have spawned 16 times since they have mated. The hatch only lasts up until the 9 or 10th day and either most or all of them disappears overnight.
Are they missing something in the diet? I've noticed that the mother will come by and inspect the eggs every so often and rips one off the rock and eats it. I've noticed them eating eggs that don't cling to the rock as well but thats to be exspected. I saw one actually hatch when there were only 13 left and one darted out into the flow of water and zap the mother went after it and ate it. So I am wondering if she eats them all. The dad fish stands quard the whole time fanning and cleanning them. Interesting to watch. Spawning and hatching is now predictable by keeping track on the calender.
So the big question is...how do we keep the babies alive?

I'm not a clown expert by any means but if i was you, i'd remove the babies from the parents.
I hope Ilham can give you more info dood.
 
Well Kyle we wait for topic 11

Ilham will probaly address this in topic 11 check out his first Post... Congrats on the breeding Pair thou that is quite cool and in my opinion a sign of a healthy tank keep up the good work there buddy!


kylem said:
I have a pair of clownfish....not sure which...Ocelarious or perc.
They have spawned 16 times since they have mated. The hatch only lasts up until the 9 or 10th day and either most or all of them disappears overnight.
Are they missing something in the diet? I've noticed that the mother will come by and inspect the eggs every so often and rips one off the rock and eats it. I've noticed them eating eggs that don't cling to the rock as well but thats to be exspected. I saw one actually hatch when there were only 13 left and one darted out into the flow of water and zap the mother went after it and ate it. So I am wondering if she eats them all. The dad fish stands quard the whole time fanning and cleanning them. Interesting to watch. Spawning and hatching is now predictable by keeping track on the calender.
So the big question is...how do we keep the babies alive?
 
kylem said:
The hatch only lasts up until the 9 or 10th day and either most or all of them disappears overnight.

Hi Kylem. I will address this concern for the moment...

What you said above is probably because....they hatched...most likely. Hatching is temperature dependent...that is...if you run your tank say at 78 degrees Fahrenheit, they will hatch maybe between 8-10 days. If you run at 81-83 degrees Fahrenheit, maybe 7-8 days or so.

So most likely...if I'm understanding right...they disappear because they have hatched.....

- Ilham
 
Clowns settng up camp

I am just getting back into the hobby after about a 1 1/2 year sabatacle. I have a 24g nano cube that will be an SPS, LPS only tank. I am 2 weeks out of the cycle and have a small cleanup crew and a single sixline currently. I would like to run 2-3 more fish max. I am considering getting a mated pair of Perculas. I will not be getting anenomes for this tank, but a decent sized torch, hammer or frogspawn colony is very attractive!

Any thoughts on the setup or advice about a habitat...?

Juke
 
One thing that i'd watch out is with the torch just because they can sting corals around it, but i've seen clowns hosting them.
six lines are very pretty but just make sure it doesn't attack your clowns, most of them are ok with them but if he's the king of your tank sometimes they can be mean.
I have one with a female ocellaris and the first days he was ok, but since now he's used to the tank and since he's a little bit bigger than her, he thinks he's the king and by that, i mean he goes in the my clown's territory and doesn't care just like he sometimes takes food away from her.
I'm sure the clowns will be fine but just something to watch out.
 
Hi Juke. The first question I will throw out is will you do any hood and lighting modifications, and if so, what will they be?

In addition, True Perculas or False Perculas..

Best,
Ilham

juke said:
I am just getting back into the hobby after about a 1 1/2 year sabatacle. I have a 24g nano cube that will be an SPS, LPS only tank. I am 2 weeks out of the cycle and have a small cleanup crew and a single sixline currently. I would like to run 2-3 more fish max. I am considering getting a mated pair of Perculas. I will not be getting anenomes for this tank, but a decent sized torch, hammer or frogspawn colony is very attractive!

Any thoughts on the setup or advice about a habitat...?

Juke
 
I have a DIY wood hood with 250w MH in it and a 36w PC for sunrise/sunset transition lighting.

I would like to get True Percs possibly black ones if I can find them...
 
Section 6...continued..

(apologies for taking so long....time has gotten away from me)....

I will continue with the commonly used abbreviations or words associated with clownfishes. Previously, in (post 13) I mentioned about different types of clownfish pairs. Here are some terms when speaking about clownfishes......and will be edited at a later time for alphabetical order...but not at this time.

cleaning - I will take this as an action verb, or a gerrund (i.e. The clowns look forward to cleaning for you). Cleaning occurs either with first time spawners, and also occurs prior to each successive spawning event. Both male and female clowns perform this duty, sometimes so much that their mouths form blisters. Normally, they nip at nearby rocks by their area or a pot, or an area by their anemone where they have decided as a couple to lay their eggs. Once they feel the area is clean enough of debris, algae, and any other material that will prevent the eggs to stick, they will be satisfied and stop 'cleaning'. More on this later.....​

rapid breathing - Just as it states, it is an action by clowns that describe the quick and and continuous pumping of the fish's gills. This is unlike any normal gill pumping. Often times a symptom of stress and/or disease. More on this later.....​

hosting - I am treating this as an anemone 'hosting' or being present for clownfishes to go in. It is theoretically not the clowns that host in the anemone, but that the anemone is the host for the clowns.​

WC - Refers to clownfishes that are taken from the wild (i.e. captured from the wild); otherwise known as wild-caught​

CB - Refers to clownfishes that have been spawned, hatched, and grown all 'in-house' away from their natural ocean homes; otherwise known as 'captive-bred'. I will use CB from now on and stray away from TR or 'tank-raised' as that term is somewhat ambiguous.​

tail-swishing (informally) - Refers to action by clownfishes whereby they rapidly move their tails back and forth in rapid succession in order to mark/defend/mark territory; this event is easily visible in a sand bed tank, where an area near the clownfishes may be barren of sand due to them moving the sand by 'tail-swishing' it away. This action is not to be mistaken with 'cleaning'.​

will be edited as it continues...

Best,
Ilham

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Cleaning clarification

Hi Ilham I know your busy with a Tank that wants to come apart:evil: but when you get some time could you go over this a little more,
My Cinnamon Clown's
(Amphiprion melanopus) seem to be just tearing my sandbed up at the base of my Anemone she is constatly brushing it away from the base with her tail. Have you seen this before?




Elmo18 said:
cleaning - I will take this as an action verb, or a gerrund (i.e. The clowns look forward to cleaning for you). Cleaning occurs either with first time spawners, and also occurs prior to each sucessive spawning event. Both male and female clowns perform this duty, sometimes so much that their mouths form blisters. Normally, they nip at nearby rocks by their area or a pot, or an area by their anemone where they have decided as a couple to lay their eggs. Once they feel the area is clean enough of debris, algae, and any other material that will prevent the eggs to stick, they will be satisfied and stop 'cleaning'. More on this later.....​



will be edited as it continues...

Best,
Ilham

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The Apprentice said:
Hi Ilham I know your busy with a Tank that wants to come apart:evil:

Yup....it's still trying to come apart....Hopefully the guy up there will say otherwise. I really hope it sticks together until a tank is made.

The Apprentice said:
but when you get some time could you go over this a little more,
My Cinnamon Clown's
(Amphiprion melanopus) seem to be just tearing my sandbed up at the base of my Anemone she is constatly brushing it away from the base with her tail. Have you seen this before?

Hi Jeff. Let me just post a photo of my tank back in April 2005 with the pair of GSM clownfishes in the small cube tank. Just see and observe yourself :)

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Notice how there is no sand in the couple's corner? Clownfishes are known for their "tail swishing", which I believe should be made into another definition shortly after this. I do not signify this with "cleaning" per say because out of stress and 'hatred' of onlookers looking too close, clownfishes may turn around from onlookers and perform this tail-swishing...moving sand and creating a sandstorm. THey may also do this without anyone present. IMO, it is territorial and their custom as it is their space. This is different from cleaning as in "prior to spawning".

Best,
Ilham
 
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Stan Stan who? sandy situations

Thanks for the Reply Ilham everything you posted had some truth to what I had been seeing.she keeps sweeping the sand away from her sea anemone. So we don't know if she is getting ready to set up her house?? Some clowns just like to have everything bare and nothing touching their sea anemones. I think Plus they get mad at you if you get near their sea anemone. this one just goes Crazy when I take my tank magnet cleaner over by here Anemone, Kind of reminds me Of a dog thats hates a Vacuum cleaner:mad:

Thanks again Ilham...Jeff
 
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