I am unable to get him to put him in a hospital tank so i administered Kick Ick into my reef tank. It claims it is reef safe and i followed the directions. The Tang is behaving strangely. he is standing in front of the koralia pump as if to help him breath with the water current coming in his face. Any one experienced this? thank you
My purple tang is in trouble
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loohunter
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yes, the parasites are affecting its gills and he is trying to get them out
Herefishyfishy
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Did you ever bother to read the links I gave you? Better act fast or kiss your tang goodbye
http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41431
http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41431
kingskimmer
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why is there such nasty people on this site?
matts125
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I hope this was a joke, Mike has simply invested his time to answer this gentmans questions regarding his sick fish. all in all just to give good advice and hope he can save his fish...
kingskimmer
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of course, his buddies come to his rescue. I'm out
matts125
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well with that attitude I think we can all agree we found the (nastiest) person on this site.
Kingskimmer, it would appear "out" is a good place for you to be.
Octopus, if I'm not mistaken, and maybe I am, there have been a few threads posted about this problem you've been having. Unfortunately, as was mentioned on the other threads, even if it takes tearing all your rockwork apart, you're going to need to catch that Tang. Reliable treatment of this parasite is going to take hyposalinity treatment for at least 8 weeks. Not only that, you need to catch ALL the fish and get them out of the display and treat them as well. In this time period, your display tank needs to remain fishless for the same 8 week period.
Rid Ich, Kick ich...these are worthless. Anything that will kill Ich, will also kill all the beneficial critters in your tank. They are NOT at all reef safe. Granted, they probably won't kill your corals, but they'll kill all the other good stuff in your tank.
Octopus, if I'm not mistaken, and maybe I am, there have been a few threads posted about this problem you've been having. Unfortunately, as was mentioned on the other threads, even if it takes tearing all your rockwork apart, you're going to need to catch that Tang. Reliable treatment of this parasite is going to take hyposalinity treatment for at least 8 weeks. Not only that, you need to catch ALL the fish and get them out of the display and treat them as well. In this time period, your display tank needs to remain fishless for the same 8 week period.
Rid Ich, Kick ich...these are worthless. Anything that will kill Ich, will also kill all the beneficial critters in your tank. They are NOT at all reef safe. Granted, they probably won't kill your corals, but they'll kill all the other good stuff in your tank.
balogh03
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Just so you don't think it is just the few people saying the same thing, I am going to jump on this and agree with the others that action needs to take place (as in get the tang out). Maybe more people will chime in and let you know aswell. We can't make you or anybody else do anything, so it is up to you if you want to save the fish.
Thanks, and good luck.
-augustus
Thanks, and good luck.
-augustus
krisfal
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I will add my opinion. Your fish must all be removed from the tank and put into hyposalinity. Just think of it as a chance to re-do the aquascape. I find I always like it better the second or third time around anyway.
Once you beat the ich, if you always QT new fish you will not be faced with this again.
Most of us have learned this the hard way!
Once you beat the ich, if you always QT new fish you will not be faced with this again.
Most of us have learned this the hard way!
Herefishyfishy
Smart Bass
Let me put this in simple terms. There are basically only two known methods of killing Ick and saving a fish. The first is with copper which is a very advanced technique and requires fancy testing tools. The second is with hyposalinity. There are no other methods.
The same for treating an entire tank: either use copper and prevent ever being able to keep corals or inverts, or leave it empty of fish for two full months.
Once one fish gets Ick in a tank, all fish are presumed to be infected.
Any bottled treatment that contains enough copper to kill Ick will kill everything else beneficial such as snails, shrimp, and many things that keep the water clean,
In most aquariums, an untreated fish will die a slow agonizing death as the parasite consumes it's gills while severely irritating all the rest of it's body.
THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS, THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR UNDERSTANDING. THIS HOBBY TAKES STUDY AND WORK
If you don't read up on how to deal with the problem, you can kiss your fish goodbye.
Mike
Reefing since the 70s
The same for treating an entire tank: either use copper and prevent ever being able to keep corals or inverts, or leave it empty of fish for two full months.
Once one fish gets Ick in a tank, all fish are presumed to be infected.
Any bottled treatment that contains enough copper to kill Ick will kill everything else beneficial such as snails, shrimp, and many things that keep the water clean,
In most aquariums, an untreated fish will die a slow agonizing death as the parasite consumes it's gills while severely irritating all the rest of it's body.
THERE ARE NO SHORTCUTS, THERE IS NO SUBSTITUTE FOR UNDERSTANDING. THIS HOBBY TAKES STUDY AND WORK
If you don't read up on how to deal with the problem, you can kiss your fish goodbye.
Mike
Reefing since the 70s
chend2
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Did the poor tang make it?
boosted306
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Is the tang in a quarantine tank on his way to recovery? Give an update.
Herefishyfishy
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Means the disease is now in Trophont stage where the parasite is now in that stage of it's life cycle, where they fall off to reproduce and come back even stronger.
boosted306
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Octopus, how come you are not putting the fish in a quarantine tank? I can only stress how important this is for the survival of your fish.
Some may disagree but a cleaner wrasse and shrimp should help prolong him, no?
Some may disagree but a cleaner wrasse and shrimp should help prolong him, no?
chend2
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I would agree. A cleaner shrimp or wrasse may help, then again it may not. Getting a fish out of the display is a serious pain though. Either way ultimately Octo will decide what is best for him.
krisfal
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I would argue that by purchasing a fish you are making a commitment and your decision should not be based on what is best (easiest)for the owner, but what is best for the fish!
Yeah it is a pain to pull rock out of the tank, but this is not an easy hobby to do right. If you want easy get a goldfish bowl!
Just my opinion!
chend2
Achilles Reef Nugget
So, not hyposalinating a fish is cruelty to animals, or are we morally committed to everything we buy?
Herefishyfishy
Smart Bass
Talking religion here and that is the absolute in opinion.
Sooooooo, IMHO, yes.
I look at fish similar to cats and dogs and there are very few reasons to allow them to suffer due to ignorance or laziness. If the care of fish were in competition for time needed for people's care, then one should evaluate if one really has the time for a marine aquarium.
This is just my opinion, no more correct than any other opinion and will add that I am not a vegetarian.
Sooooooo, IMHO, yes.
I look at fish similar to cats and dogs and there are very few reasons to allow them to suffer due to ignorance or laziness. If the care of fish were in competition for time needed for people's care, then one should evaluate if one really has the time for a marine aquarium.
This is just my opinion, no more correct than any other opinion and will add that I am not a vegetarian.
