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Yea got to keep then rocks really clean, hope today it is better! I'm doing a WC today myself, about 20 gallons. Larger water changes do better than ten little water changes, you replace more of the old water & not some of the water last changed.
 
Carlos - looks great! I'm thinking about trying one of those skimmer mods too I look forward to seeing how it works out for you in the long haul.
 
Hey Carlos! I know what you mean about the rocks shedding...That's why I always ran crazy flow to keep them "blown" off so my skimmer could pick it up. Just allowing it to settle on the rocks or sand bed can degrade water quality, but give it time man...You are doing everything right so far. You'll get it all together:)
 
8 weeks Today, here are the results from this morning...

Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 50
pH 8.0
Salinity 1024
PPT 34
Temp 79.2 F

That sudden drop on Nitrates must be because of the water change Yesterday so I don't expect it to last...

I need to find a way to clean my sand bed. What do you guys think I should do now?
 
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Test results are looking great! How do you go about a water change Carlos?? Do you vaccum the sand as you remove the water? If not, then that is one of the best ways to clean your sand bed. With each water change, get a siphon tube like this http://www.petsmart.com/global/prod...174848137163&itemNo=10&In=Fish&N=2030062&Ne=2 and run it through the sand bed as you remove your water. You will kill 2 birds with one stone that way as you will be removing detritus off of the sand bed while at the same time removing the water for the water change and stirring up the bed some (that is if you run a shallow sand bed...can't remeber exactly) If a deep sand bed, then you just want to do the top layer, but if I remember correctly, you have a ssb. With that being said, at one point, I would even just use the siphon tube and suck water from the tank and strain it through a filter sock in a bucket then re-use the water detritus free when I wasn't prepared or ready for a water change. That way, you don't waste water, but still remove the waste...Just a few thoughts..:)
 
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That is a good drop but still high, you will have to see what is reads in a few more days hope it goes down, also what Krish said will also help a good bit, that sb will make it take longer to cycle, that is something I didn't think about because of the BB's are so common.
 
I don't have a siphon tube so I will look for it this week and I will try it to see how it goes. Since with both water changes I used a powerhead to blow the rocks, a lot of the shedding ended up in the back to the tank. My main concern is that I don't have a lot of space behind the rocks to fit those tubes.

By the way I think I found where the micro bubbles are comming from. It appears that one of my maxijets is not working properly and releases micro bubbles every now and then.

Thank you guys!
 
Tonight I got a siphon tube which didn't really work, so I ended up using the 1/2" flexible tube that I use to do my water changes and cleaned the sand bed, I really could not believe how much dirt there was in there. I still have a few small spaces that I could not reach but I would say I got close to 85% out of the tank so I hope that will help with the nitrates.
 
Yeah, some of those siphon tubes have to be the right size. I like a narrow one to get slow flow so I don't pull as much water in to give me more time to vaccum. As for the hard to reach places, that is one of the reasons why they suggest stacking the rocks away from the backwall to allow the flow to get behind there or you to be able to clean. But in any event, once you get your cleanup crew in there hopefully they will do the work for you:)
 
Now that you siphoned the tank I would let it finish cycling until it drops, I'm sure once the bacteria does its job & catches up things should start leveling off & those traits should go way down, time it what is needed now to finish cycling.
 
I checked out my nitrates Today and they are still at 50.

Right now I have all kinds of algae in the tank, it looks disgusting!
 
Well Carlos I know your getting tired of hearing this but it still holds true, look at it two Weeks ago where it was over 100, your half way there. Let it ride another week, test it again and see where your at, your sb was cleaned so that helped but the bacteria aren't quite up to population just yet. Hang in there man! All this time is doing one thing good & that is cycling your tank & maturing it, like I said I went several months before I added anything to my tank & like you I used new rocks, although mine was ground shipped I knew it had die off, more then normal so I let it cycle!
 
Now that ammonia and nitrite are 0, time to work off those nitrates. You could dilute it with water changes or...You can use the algae at your advantage. Let it bind up the excess nitrates and phophates and then export it out of your system while at the same time give your rocks sufficient time for the necessary anaerobic bacteria to grow which will be resposible for converting the nitrates into nitrogen gas. I'm going to fetch you a thread to look at a tank of a member here that was in the same boat as you and I want you to look at the tank now. From algae bloom to beautiful. Give me a sec:)
 
You can use the algae at your advantage. Let it bind up the excess nitrates and phophates and then export it out of your system while at the same time give your rocks sufficient time for the necessary anaerobic bacteria to grow which will be resposible for converting the nitrates into nitrogen gas.

Krish, would you please elaborate on this?

Look at post# 70 here. It has before and after shots

http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/...ight=dragonfly

Very nice tank, hope to be close to that sometime soon!
 
Krish, would you please elaborate on this?

No prob man...Let's see how well I can do this:p

The reason algae grows in any tank is because there is a food source available for it to grow (eg nitrates, phosphates etc). Without these excess nutrients and light of course in the tank, then it wouldn't be able to grow. So when you start seeing algae growing in your tank, it means that you have an excess of nutrients in your tank and as a result, the algae is binding them up and using them for it's growth. As it binds them up, you will start reading less and less nitrate levels and even phosphate levels in your water. The fact though that the algae is still there in your tank, means that the bound up nitrates and phophates are still in your system so you'd need to cut it back or basically "trim it down" to export it out of your system by physically tossing out what algae you remove. So in reality, you will be using the algae at your advantage. Eventually over time, as the nitrate levels start to lower more and more, less and less algae will grow as there will be a limited food supply. Once there are no nitrates left in your system for the algae to use up for it's growth, then it will stop growing. So with that being said, this is why you see people set up refugiums. It is a place for them to harvest their algae out of sight and let it do it's thing there and not in the main display. Same thing I did. I ran a light over my sump on an alternate photoperiod from the tank with more watts per gal and made the conditions more favorable for the algae to grow there rather than in the tank and each week, I'd have a chamber full of algae I'd vaccum out until eventually, as my tank balanced out and matured, the algae never grew anymore and I read 0 nitrates which afterwards, I tossed the light and my rock was able to take care of any nitrates produced. Now this is where the algae is concerned and how it can work for you. About the live rock now, once your tank has reached a point where you are reading 0 ammonia and 0 nitrite, your tank has completed the initial cycle and you will usually be reading higher levels of nitrates (which is where you are at). In order for nitrates to be worked off or lowered other than with the use of algae or water changes is by allowing the rock to do some of the work for you. Over time, a certain type of anaerobic bacteria will start multiplying within your live rock at the presence of nitrates, which will be resposible for converting the nitrates into nitrogen gas. The problem is, nitrates have to be available for the necessary bacteria to grow and multiply and do it's thing just as ammonia and nitrite had to be present for their specific aerobic bacteria's to grow to take care of them. So it's good to allow the tank to balance out on it's own in a way and find it's own equilibrium. You can do some water changes to lower the nitrates, but still you'd want the necessary anaerobic bacteria colonies to grow within your rock so as waste is processed and any nitrates are produced in your tank, it will make quick work of it which will leave no room for algae to grow. You should have quite a bit of anaerobic bacteria already present in your system seeing you were reading nitrates from day 1, but the reason why they never really lowered during cycling was because all the die-off created even more nitrates as ammonia was converted into nitrite and nitrite was converted to nitrates. Now that the tank has cycled, it should be a lot easier to lower them.

Hope that made sense man and I didn't cofuse you more.:p Where you are at now, I'd just do a water change of about 10-15% every week or 2 and let the live rock do it's thing and the tank mature. You are at the point now where you can safely add in any hardy fish, but just keep in mind, the more livestock you add, the more bio-load you will have which your system will have to adjust to so be sure to add your livestock in slowly. :)
 
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Hey Krish, thank you so much for such a good explanation, I got the whole picture now. I really like the concept of the refuge but unfortunately I don't have space for one since I used up that space for the top off tank which I still think it was a good idea.

Anyway, I'm not going to rush things at this point. It took me 5 months just to plan and get all the equipment and I already waited 2 months for the cycle to complete so I will just continue waiting for it to balance on its own and be ready to get live stock even if that means I have to wait 2 months more since as I mentioned before, I want to do this right the first time around. I have seen so many reef tanks lately and just by taking a look at mine you can really tell is not ready.

If nitrates go under 25 in the next 2 weeks, I will probably add a few snails to get rid of algae since it's all over the tank.

Thanks again for your time, I really do appreciate it!
 
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