very frustrated with my new 2 true percs

[leebca]

You're right NaH2O. After I read the post it was sort of 'too late' with regards to the quarantine of the additions.

If it is true that these additions came from systems that had no fish in them for at least 8 weeks, then joker577 probably has no worries as far as fish obligate parasites are concerned. However, as you know, those marine life forms can bring with them invertebrate diseases, parasites and 'unwanted' marine life.

If these specimens came from systems that are unknown or which have had fish in them anytime during the last 8 weeks, then the 'fallow time' of joker577's tanks has to start over -- at least 6 weeks from the date of the last addition.

joker577 -- you freshwater dipped Xenia, Mushrooms, and Zoos? Are they still alive? Remove them if they start to die, otherwise you'll pollute the tank.

 

[joker577]

no no...i've had the xenia since before the process...i've only added the shrooms and zoas since after. They sit in a tank where no fish are and only invertebrates inhabit at the store...the only reason the guy asked me to FW dip the zoas is because of a couple critters the tank might've had that he didn't want getting into mine

 

[NaH2O]

joker - If he's talking about zoanthid eating nudibranchs, then make sure to inspect the zoas really well. The egg masses are really small spirals that stick to the zoanthids. They likely won't be effected by the dip, and you'll have to manually remove them. You can search RF for zoanthid dip and there a number of threads related to it.

 

[joker577]

I believe he was talking about some type of worm...similar to a bristle worm maybe but i forgot the name

 

[leebca]

Inverts can (and usually do) come from tanks with no marine fishes in them, but the tanks can be connected to through the LFS system to other tanks that have fish in them. You want to be sure that those tanks were not connected to any other fish tanks.

Most LFS do keep invert and marine fish systems separate so that they can dose copper in the fish system.

 

[joker577]

works for me! now I just need to find a replacement for these bioballs....and maybe some brighter looking corals...the tank is kinda blah right now lol

 

[joker577]

Time has flown by and im almost finished with the hypo!

 

[leebca]

So let's review what you will be doing when the hyposalinity is over with. Please tell us how you will raise the salinity; over what period of time; and the method you will use.

After the salinity has been raised, then what are you going to do?

 

[joker577]

I'm going to slowly raise the salinity over a period of two weeks by increments of .002 each day using a hydrometer...and after that I'm going to finish using Stress Coat on them so their slime coats are hopefully where they need to be. Then by that time the time the will have been fallow for 4 1/2 weeks

 

[leebca]

If you go 0.002 sp. gr. units per day, it should take less than two weeks. I really wish you were using a refractometer. You might consider getting one in the near future or asking for one for Christmas.

So what are you going to do with the fish, once the salinity is up to normal and you've used the Stress Coat?

 

[joker577]

Well, as soon as the SG's of both tanks are the same I'm going to transport them back , although I hate using a net it's probably going to be the only way to do it. But the temps of each tank are already the same so it hopefully won't be too bad..and what I meant by raising it over two weeks is just to give the tank time to get rid of ick if it still infact has it

 

[Herefishyfishy]

Joker there is no way you are soon to end the treatment. On the 8th you wrote

SG down to 1.008 cause its at 1.012 right now ...

The clock starts once you have reached full hypo and the fish stop showing ANY signs of disease. This means 6 weeks from the 8th of June at the very earliest. If you do not run it's full length, it will all be for waste. Read the instructions and take notes. You will be tested...

 

[joker577]

I thought it was 4-6 weeks ?

 

[leebca]

You can try the longer end of the normal range (e.g., 6 weeks), but since your fish had complications, I suggested 8 weeks of treatment. I think you previously indicated that puts you to the second week in July.

However, there is still one point you have not been made aware of as yet, according to your last post. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but. . .

Once the treatment is over and you've raised the salinity back to normal, you hold the fish in quarantine another 4 weeks to verify they have been cured. Not fun to be sure. But you don't want anything to go wrong and you want to be sure they are disease-free.

That's part of the recommended hyposalinity treatment:
http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27155

:|

 

[Herefishyfishy]

You can try the longer end of the normal range (e.g., 6 weeks), but since your fish had complications, I suggested 8 weeks of treatment. I think you previously indicated that puts you to the second week in July.
That's part of the recommended hyposalinity treatment:
http://www.reeffrontiers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=27155

:|

Lee, 8 weeks from the 8th of June would be the 8th of August.

 

[joker577]

Cause I haven't seen one spot on them since the salinity was at 1.016...a while back, probably the 6th i believe

 

[Herefishyfishy]

Joker, best to write this important stuff down. You posted you were still lowering salinity on the 8th and were taking your time after the early confusion. Assuming that you were at full hypo by the 8th and no signs of disease, that would make July 20th for 6 weeks or August 8th for 8 weeks.

 

[leebca]

Thanks Mike. I lost track of when he started.

I hope you are writing the dates down to keep track of things. Especially write it on a calendar so you can look at it at any time and see where you're at, joker577.

 

[joker577]

I use my comp calendar and refer back to here for dates, I know the date when I was at 1.016 was the last day I saw any spots...which was the 7th as I looked back to the post.

 

[Herefishyfishy]

Good to hear symptoms were gone during the lowering of the salinity. This means that the clock started once the QT was at full hypo. That would be a day or two later than the 7th when it was still up to 1.016. Thus my June 8th estimate

Hang tough my friend, nothing good ever happens fast in a marine aquarium and you are doing very well with a tough situation!